Weird fallacy that if you use a tool you can't use your brain anymore
Like people who use machines are always physically strong enough to do the job the machine does, right?
"People who don't use AI will be left behind"
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Re: "People who don't use AI will be left behind"
#172Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's a bit arrogant and borderline Luddite to suggest that 'your era was legitimate' and that somehow these new things which you don't understand are somehow 'lesser' or illegitimate. In the long arc of history, I'm doubtful we'll see 'the last 50 years' as 'the Golden Age' - that's just a personal, contemporary romanticization. More than likely, the advent of computers -> web -> AI etc. will be one block of the 'inf…
The Luddites were rational. It's immature to use that word as an insult. Nothing the parent said was arrogant.
That the Luddites were acting on principle doesn't mean wouldn't use the term.
Also, if you want to 'go there' you could find a much better word than 'immature' to say what you're trying to say.
The OPs posture is not tonally arrogant, but it's it's definitely intellectually arrogate.
The OP claiming heritage of the 'Golden Era' which is a dramatic, egoic romanticization.
To place one's 'own story at primacy' above all others, insinuating that 'his skills' are those which are 'true and relevant' and that those using new tools are 'lesser' or 'not substantial' , and also grossly myopic to the truly great Engineering that's going on ... is arrogant and insulting frankly.
We can empathize with having to yield to a changing world, or being too out of scope to even fathom the 'new tech', but that's very different with saying that 'Frank Sinatra was the Only Great Singer, those that came after him had not talent'.
If it were the case, then fine, but it's obviously not. AI is a legitimate advancement that narrow minded people are struggling to fathom, and it's coming out in some ugly ways.
A true creator would probably take magnanimous position that after having made their contribution, they are sad to not be able to participate in what is maybe an even more substantial era of progress, and all of the wonders that will come of it.
Good gripes - we're all about to have robots in our homes (!) probably within 5-15, we're witnesses Sci Fi unfold in front of us ...
Re: "People who don't use AI will be left behind"
#173"People who drive cars will forget how to walk".
>"People who drive cars will forget how to walk".
People who drive are in worse shape than people who walk
Re: "People who don't use AI will be left behind"
#174My take on it is I would rather code than ask the machine to code. It's frustrating though how many open source projects now are overrun with massive PRs and nobody to code review them. This feels like fallout from too much reliance on AI.
> My take on it is I would rather code than ask the machine to code. Same. I don't really care about productivity or if AI is so much more productive, tbh. I'd rather just change careers at this point. I'd prefer not to just be a full time code reviewer while my agents go do the actual work. But I'm also tired of this in between state. Either rip the bandaid off already, fire everyone, and force governments to implem…
> But I'm also tired of this in between state. Either rip the bandaid off already, fire everyone, and force governments to implement UBI so I can finally be free, or finally admit that the productivity gains have been vastly oversold and the LLM apocalypse is only a half truth, half grift and get on with our lives.
I'm also tired. I wish this would happen too.
I just don't think it will because it would devastate the market.
Re: "People who don't use AI will be left behind"
#175Earlier quoted context omitted.
I made very concrete claim: that AI will be universal and widespread - embedded within all of the technology and systems we use. It's so completely obvious, that anyone denying it has to be living in some kind rhetorical bubble. It's truly a feature of 'online rhetoric' like HN/Reddit where people can consider these asymptotic postures and take themselves seriously. We will use AI like you use plastics, cars, electri…
"Hand writing" your own thoughts is the only true way, though. If some entity does your thinking, then it's no longer you.
Yes, now that's a reasoned though on how AI will affect us, but fortunately - the AI is not 'doing our thinking for us' any more that 'calculators did', and, that's not going to stop us from using AI.
People not using AI will be about as useful as those refusing to use e-mail or computers.
It's absurd.
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#176Re: "People who don't use AI will be left behind"
#177Earlier quoted context omitted.
Most good programmers are good at writing. If you’re capable at simultaneously writing instructions for a dumb abstract machine and have those instructions being understandable for humans, you’re clearly good at expressing at least technical ideas.
Yeah, never had a problem with explaining to AI what I want from it. That doesn't mean AI always follows what I tell it to do ...
Which AI are you using?
Re: "People who don't use AI will be left behind"
#178Earlier quoted context omitted.
a good job is one that brings you joy and improves your creativitiy, they by definition can't be in hell. if you mean well paying, that's a different thing entirely, ditch the fancy car and adjust your lifestyle
I have a fancy car? News to me. I'm just trying to pay my bills and live a sensible and reasonably comfortable life. These days that requires a lot of money.
That's an excuse you made for yourself to feel better.
Re: "People who don't use AI will be left behind"
#179Earlier quoted context omitted.
a good job is one that brings you joy and improves your creativitiy, they by definition can't be in hell. if you mean well paying, that's a different thing entirely, ditch the fancy car and adjust your lifestyle
I have a fancy car? News to me. I'm just trying to pay my bills and live a sensible and reasonably comfortable life. These days that requires a lot of money.
mind you given the topic of the article I took the jobs in question to mean largely in the software industry, not talking about minimum wage workers here.
But as a programmer I am quite baffled when peers my age, often without kids struggle in this kind of way. My essentials are rent, food, metro card, library card. When I hear people who make what I make say that living requires a lot of money that usually includes two dozen subscriptions, a few grand in useless electronics per year and ordering food most of the week.
Re: "People who don't use AI will be left behind"
#180Thank ghod I'm retiring in six months. I'm very thankful I came of age during the golden age of personal computing. I was able to own my own computer(s) and earn a living writing software on them and for them. Fifty years was a good run, and I consider myself lucky to have participated in it. IMO we've gone full circle: dumb terminals chained to mainframes and the whimsey of someone else's rules, restrictions, and re…
> I've come up with a set of rules that describe our reactions to technologies: Anything that is in the world when you're born is normal and ordinary and is just a natural part of the way the world works. Anything that's invented between when you're fifteen and thirty-five is new and exciting and revolutionary and you can probably get a career in it. Anything invented after you're thirty-five is against the natural order of things.
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