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Re: Trump fires NSF's oversight board

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There’s a lot of political commentary in these threads about how dumb the admin is this and that, sarcasm, etc. but is anyone able to share why this is such a truly beneficial org to our country? I’m just out of the loop on this and I’m genuinely asking, I have never really heard of them. But by the reactions in the comments they’re like the most blessed org of our country and accelerate innovation and advancement of…

You don’t think it’s worth it to research this yourself. That’s what the NSF is for, on a bigger scale! LMGTFY: https://www.nsf.gov/impacts

I appreciate the link. Maybe someone has some more specific information or has been personally impacted? I guess it’s not worthwhile to talk to others and I should just ask AI. Have a nice day.

Re: Trump fires NSF's oversight board

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This should feel personal to a lot of us. I have hopes of applying to the Small Business Innovation Research fund ( https://seedfund.nsf.gov ), a program that gives small companies a good chunk of money without taking equity, in order to encourage development of technologies deemed of national importance. I’d be curious if anyone here has tried applying in the last 18 months.

I know several people who have. They cannot even get awarded funds right now. All funding is being directed to grant mills.

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Re: Trump fires NSF's oversight board

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Odd, why can't Trump be both cause and symptom? Surely, he has made things uniquely worse, and in ways that would not have happened without him.

The undercurrent of dissatisfaction which led to his popularity was already there. And has been for decades. Do you blame the drought, the dry kindling, or the match? You don't get the wildfire without all three, and anyone paying attention can observe the looming danger and the inevitability of ignition. Who lights the match matters. But is only a small part of the contributing circumstances.

I assign a fair portion of the blame to a consciously self-serving, opportunistic match, yes.

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That’s the best case scenario - requires a lot of people currently involved in this to be jailed or executed before we can even begin to move on though. I’m not super optimistic.

Let us not say executed. It's a harsher punishment that they live to see the rebuild of what they turned to ash.

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Re: Trump fires NSF's oversight board

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I was helping some people working on their phase I SBIR throughout the first year of Trump, and they often didn't know who to report to, as the firings were so relentless and pointless and completely disorganized. They got the highest possible rating upon completion, but have not been able to apply for Phase 2, so the project is effectively dead as they pursued other opportunities. It's hard to imaging a more wastefu…

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The communist small business funding scheme.... Interesting.

Re: Trump fires NSF's oversight board

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post #160

An expected part of Project 2025[1]. The end goal is to install Trump allies as heads of every agency that matters to their agenda, and to shut down all agencies that don't. This way by end of 2028 there is nobody left in government who can speak out against what they're going to do next. If you have not read Project 2025 in a while, I encourage you to revisit it[2]. In summary it's a point-by-point plan to take over…

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In your mind all of this is perfectly normal? I just have to know

Re: Trump fires NSF's oversight board

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post #160

An expected part of Project 2025[1]. The end goal is to install Trump allies as heads of every agency that matters to their agenda, and to shut down all agencies that don't. This way by end of 2028 there is nobody left in government who can speak out against what they're going to do next. If you have not read Project 2025 in a while, I encourage you to revisit it[2]. In summary it's a point-by-point plan to take over…

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No, no it is not.
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