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MeshCore development team splits over trademark dispute and AI-generated code

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Re: MeshCore development team splits over trademark dispute and AI-generated code

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Off topic but rhadamanthine? Is this word zeitgeist now?

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Rhadamanthine It's just a word I like to use, it has a nice sound to it.

Nice, I hadn't heard that word before - thanks!

Re: MeshCore development team splits over trademark dispute and AI-generated code

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It matters legally. Different countries allow unlicensed use on different frequencies. Look up which is correct for your location.

Sadly there seems to be only one or two people in the uk on the reticulum network, I looked on rmap. Given these things have a range of maybe 8km I don't think that for all intents and purposes that it really exists yet.

LoRa can reach hundreds of km's, just depends on positioning. Current verified Meshtastic ground-to-ground distance record is 331km (205mi) which is pretty nuts. Between two mountain peaks, of course. :) https://meshtastic.org/docs/overview/range-tests/

Re: MeshCore development team splits over trademark dispute and AI-generated code

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It's a simple exam that 10yo kids pass all the time. If someone is complaining about the licencing process, the problem is on that individual, not the system. Like with roads and cars, radio spectrum is a very limited and very shared resource, and there has to be some regulation, or else some Elon Musk-type person would already take it for themselves for a commercial reason. It's also self-policed, so that means that…

The problem isnt the test. In the USA the test is cheap. Books can easily be acquired online. The problem is hams - the people who are habitually are on amateur radio. I find them to be incredibly anti-digital, holier than thou, loud about hard-conservative positions, misogynist, racist, and more. And when Ive tried to further the art and science of radio comms, hams are some of the first to talk down what I contribu…

Yeah, all that stuff depends where you are located. Up here in Vancouver amateur radio community, any kind of bigoted/discriminatory/exclusionary crap is totally not accepted or tolerated. There are always people experimenting with new things, sharing knowledge/experience, helping each other out. Heck, I built a portable radio pack and made a blog post about it, and my local club included my post (with my permission) in their monthly newsletter. I've also contributed photos to them and attended numerous community events -- always 100% welcoming and there's a strong educational/sharing vibe to all their events. When I hear people complaining about "hams" I'm always thankful to have seen almost none of this stuff locally.

Re: MeshCore development team splits over trademark dispute and AI-generated code

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That's unique to american hams. Most of the world just collects dx entities like pokemon, pota/sota locations, backpain complaints on nets and argue if ft8 counts or not for anything.

Collecting replies like pokemon seems like a real waste of time in my opinion. I can send an ICMP ping to something I know is in Svalbard Norway across the regular Internet and get a reply, but I don't pin a postcard to a cork board on my wall celebrating my amazing technical accomplishment. Similarly, for all the effort that people put forth to do EME and get bidirectional traffic with some tiny data payload bounced…

> Collecting replies like pokemon seems like a real waste of time in my opinion

It's a hobby. "Let people enjoy things". Please remember this: it's a hobby. It's right there in the name: amateur radio. We're not trying to be world-class industry-leading RF engineers.

Re: MeshCore development team splits over trademark dispute and AI-generated code

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This is the correct info. Anyone in an emergency is allowed to use the amateur frequencies. Just got my technician license a couple weeks ago, emergency use is even actually on the test!

The 97.403? https://www.ecfr.gov/current/title-47/chapter-I/subchapter-D... > No provision of these rules prevents the use by an amateur station of any means of radiocommunication at its disposal to provide essential communication needs in connection with the immediate safety of human life and immediate protection of property when normal communication systems are not available. That rule applies only to amateur stati…

Preventing a more serious harm (Necessity) is a common law defence against most crimes.

Re: MeshCore development team splits over trademark dispute and AI-generated code

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Collecting replies like pokemon seems like a real waste of time in my opinion. I can send an ICMP ping to something I know is in Svalbard Norway across the regular Internet and get a reply, but I don't pin a postcard to a cork board on my wall celebrating my amazing technical accomplishment. Similarly, for all the effort that people put forth to do EME and get bidirectional traffic with some tiny data payload bounced…

> Collecting replies like pokemon seems like a real waste of time in my opinion It's a hobby. "Let people enjoy things". Please remember this: it's a hobby. It's right there in the name: amateur radio. We're not trying to be world-class industry-leading RF engineers.

Neither are the nycmesh people, who seem to have a fair bit of hobby-grade fun in doing what they do in their spare time, but the end result of their hard work provides significantly greater real-world end to end communication systems for people to use... If the purpose of amateur radio is to communicate, DXing and such doesn't really accomplish much real world utility.

No, not everything in the world has to be utilitarian or accomplish a purpose. But amateur radio is continually living in the past, their entire communication paradigm is often based on something akin to circuit-switched networking when the packet based networking world passed them by quite some years ago.

Re: MeshCore development team splits over trademark dispute and AI-generated code

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It's so weird right? I keep hearing people say it's open source but like... where's the code then? I've tried to find it. I can find stuff for core components, but they lock features behind a delay-wall in the app. If it was open source that stuff would be gone immediately.

https://github.com/meshcore-dev/MeshCore The vibecoder was on MeshOS, which indeed is not open source

That's the board firmware, not the official Meshcore Android or IOS app.

Re: MeshCore development team splits over trademark dispute and AI-generated code

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> simple text messaging Also great for position tracking, sensor data or motion detection etc.

This for days. Cheap sensors that anyone can churn out for days and deploy to anywhere for weeks to years. No longer do I have to know if the garden beds need to be watered.

For that specific use case, if you already have a component out there, couldn't you instead have it trigger water at some % water saturation?

Re: MeshCore development team splits over trademark dispute and AI-generated code

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Perhaps there are others in your neighborhood in the same position, who would only get into it if there were other nodes. So be the first, get your friends into it, and maybe more nodes will follow. It's only $30 or so for a device. They have a decent range (15 miles or more) so depending on how rural you are, you might be able to create a line of repeaters back to a major population center.

Lol, I'm rural enough that the concept of "neighborhood" has no meaning here. I'd have to have a neighbor first. And friends all live further away than 15 miles. Your point still stands though.

Set it up, and when family visit, give them little LORA pucks to strap onto their belts when they go out on the property. Boom little property wide messaging network. Send out a text when dinner's ready!

Re: MeshCore development team splits over trademark dispute and AI-generated code

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I'd love to get a node working just for fun. But it also seems like a waste since I'm extremely rural. The closest node is 200+ miles away. The chances of seeing any other device but my own connect to it seem slim. Is there still a reason to do this?

I ended up getting a ham radio license and now I get to use technology that actually works (even if it's a little more janky than meshtastic/reticulum). My friend is across town and I should be able to hit him with the line of sight meshtastic repeater from my house, but I've never been able to. OTOH, we can hear each other clear on any of the ham bands.

I vaguely remember reading an article where someone had somehow transmitted digital signals over HAM, could feasibly be a transport for a reticulum network, right?
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