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Another Day Has Come

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Re: Another Day Has Come

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That is a generous assessment of Tim Cook’s reign at Apple and especially of his character. I found it a real pleasure to read.

This guy has also been generous, and incredibly wrong, about other leaders too. Go look at his glazing posts of someone throughout Q3/Q4 of 2024, especially on Nov 3rd.

As far as I can tell, there isn’t a post in the Daring Fireball archive on Nov 3.

Re: Another Day Has Come

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> “When we work on making our devices accessible by the blind, I don’t consider the bloody ROI.” I just have to call out how much this impacted my mom’s life. She’s 100% blind and has access because of her iPhone and iPad. Yes she learned JAWSs and literally took classes to do it. Every single windows update has made it so she’d have to retake this class. The iOS updates a rocky but she isn’t literally hamstrung. My…

the idea that apple's CEO is somehow indifferent of ROI, in any conceivable context, is laughable. sadly it also seems like exceptional advertising

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Personal attacks like this are not acceptable on HN, no matter who or what they're about. The guidelines are clear that we expect better than this... Be kind. Don't be snarky. Converse curiously; don't cross-examine. Edit out swipes. Comments should get more thoughtful and substantive, not less, as a topic gets more divisive. When disagreeing, please reply to the argument instead of calling names. "That is idiotic; 1…

You might want to perform a few searches for "Elon Musk", "Donald Trump", "rapist", and "pedophile". High-profile people are attacked constantly on HN.

If you don't like a comment, report it; that's what the feature is for.

I spent many years at Apple, dealing with Gruber directly. If I want to call him an asshole, I will do so.

Lastly, I can't find a single comment in your history that materially adds to the conversation. It's like you believe it is your job to police HN. Hint: it isn't.

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WTF? You can't post personal attacks or abusive names for people like this on HN. The guidelines make it clear we're trying for something better here. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html´

the bias in moderation action on HC is astounding, and starting a moderation comment with "WTF" just illustrates the lack of professionalism

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Personal attacks like this are not acceptable on HN, no matter who or what they're about. The guidelines are clear that we expect better than this... Be kind. Don't be snarky. Converse curiously; don't cross-examine. Edit out swipes. Comments should get more thoughtful and substantive, not less, as a topic gets more divisive. When disagreeing, please reply to the argument instead of calling names. "That is idiotic; 1…

You might want to perform a few searches for "Elon Musk", "Donald Trump", "rapist", and "pedophile". High-profile people are attacked constantly on HN. If you don't like a comment, report it; that's what the feature is for. I spent many years at Apple, dealing with Gruber directly. If I want to call him an asshole, I will do so. Lastly, I can't find a single comment in your history that materially adds to the convers…

I'm a moderator here. It's my job to uphold the guidelines. Personal abuse of anybody is against the guidelines, not because of what we think of any of those individuals, but because of what kind of site HN is meant to be and the kinds of people we want to be. The whole reason this is a place where people want to participate is that we've had guidelines since the start and we uphold them daily. Having known someone personally doesn't make a difference to whether the guidelines apply; indeed, it matters more to make the effort to follow them when it's a topic that is upsetting to you.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

You might want to perform a few searches for "Elon Musk", "Donald Trump", "rapist", and "pedophile". High-profile people are attacked constantly on HN. If you don't like a comment, report it; that's what the feature is for. I spent many years at Apple, dealing with Gruber directly. If I want to call him an asshole, I will do so. Lastly, I can't find a single comment in your history that materially adds to the convers…

I'm a moderator here. It's my job to uphold the guidelines. Personal abuse of anybody is against the guidelines, not because of what we think of any of those individuals, but because of what kind of site HN is meant to be and the kinds of people we want to be. The whole reason this is a place where people want to participate is that we've had guidelines since the start and we uphold them daily. Having known someone p…

Great - thank you for your service. I'm a moderator for /r/politics on Reddit. If you think your job is difficult, you should try that for a bit. ;-)

> HN is meant to be and the kinds of people we want to be

Well, I desire to be honest and truthful about my experiences (at both Microsoft and Apple). If I believe my experience can be useful, I will share it.

If you object to my comments, you are, of course, free to remove them.

But don't preach to me about "who we want to be". Perhaps that is who you want to be.

You've done your job by letting me know you don't like my thoughts on Gruber. Thank you. Now, either remove them or continue on with your moderation duties.

Go bug the people calling Trump a pedophile and Musk a Nazi (which I agree with btw!).

Re: Another Day Has Come

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> “When we work on making our devices accessible by the blind, I don’t consider the bloody ROI.” I just have to call out how much this impacted my mom’s life. She’s 100% blind and has access because of her iPhone and iPad. Yes she learned JAWSs and literally took classes to do it. Every single windows update has made it so she’d have to retake this class. The iOS updates a rocky but she isn’t literally hamstrung. My…

the idea that apple's CEO is somehow indifferent of ROI, in any conceivable context, is laughable. sadly it also seems like exceptional advertising

When you have Apple level margins then you can definitely consider long term ROI (such as this entire thread, for example). Long term greedy, as they say.

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I'm a moderator here. It's my job to uphold the guidelines. Personal abuse of anybody is against the guidelines, not because of what we think of any of those individuals, but because of what kind of site HN is meant to be and the kinds of people we want to be. The whole reason this is a place where people want to participate is that we've had guidelines since the start and we uphold them daily. Having known someone p…

Great - thank you for your service. I'm a moderator for /r/politics on Reddit. If you think your job is difficult, you should try that for a bit. ;-) > HN is meant to be and the kinds of people we want to be Well, I desire to be honest and truthful about my experiences (at both Microsoft and Apple). If I believe my experience can be useful, I will share it. If you object to my comments, you are, of course, free to re…

Can we quit with the defiant strutting? :) Once again, we're here for curious conversation, not... this.

We don't “remove” anything (the only exception being when a user asks us to do so for privacy reasons). Personally abusive comments about anyone, including controversial public figures, should always be flagged/killed here, but whether that always happens in practice doesn't change whether the guidelines apply to you.

You are very welcome, indeed encouraged, to share your experiences from Microsoft and Apple. We just need you to do it without junking up the place with personal abuse. It's a simple matter of being respectful to this community and the guidelines that make it a place where people want to discuss interesting topics. A comment that consists of nothing more than personal insults about an individual is not “useful” and only drives away people who want to have curious conversations.

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