Ads? Where we are going, we won't need Ads. People seem to be missing the fact that businesses won't need ads anymore. It would be like pharmas gifting doctors and practitioners to prescribe their products. Those are not Ads. With LLMs the every business can do it. People "consult" LLMs like they used to "consult" doctors and thus would be forced to obey what ever it suggest. Just like right now people are forced to…
OpenAI ad partner now selling ChatGPT ad placements based on “prompt relevance”
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#173Tech pivoting from innovation to simply selling ads is often a last gasp. Couldn't figure out how to monetize so....ADS!
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I struggle to understand what OpenAI would look like in a counter factual.
Like Anthropic? Due to Altman being a lying psychopath, most of the talent left OpenAI, which is now fighting for its life -- but now they can't claim to have moral high ground or the best researchers anymore; profitability's the only way out remaining to them. Who knows? It could have always ended up this way anyway. But Altman had a pretty big role in summoning his own competition.
Second, Anthropic is the company that made a big public PR push to make a stand against the US government only to privately let the NSA use Mythos.
Amodei and Altman aren't much different and neither is Anthropic.
> profitability's the only way out remaining to them.
It's the only way out for either of them. That's the nature of business.
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#175FWIW, I've gone to ChatGPT multiple times with a specific intent to buy, like "hey I need a thing like X or Y, but with quality Z too" and sometimes it just hallucinates things that appear never to have existed, other times it comes up with real items, but the links it gives me to buy them lead nowhere, so I end up just googling the name of it and buying it that way (examples: computer monitor, power bar, USB charge…
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Clearly the Meta execs they hired are about as useful as most 3-letter exec titles because, wow, did OAI miss the boat again. Personally I'm glad they've made as many missteps as they have, but quite the amateur move to not seize the market opportunity and keep it holistically for themselves. They took nothing from Google's paved road of incumbency in this segment. Again, personally, I'm glad at yet another miss by A…
This appears to be more like a toxic rant than a reasonable argument. > quite the amateur move to not seize the market opportunity and keep it holistically for themselves What does this even mean? There are so many businesses, especially in the advertising world, that first start white-label reselling so that you can scale up super easy and quickly. Then once market is captured, you integrate everything. This is a co…
Thank you for your subjective analysis.
> What does this even mean? There are so many businesses, especially in the advertising world, that first start white-label reselling so that you can scale up super easy and quickly. Then once market is captured, you integrate everything. This is a common adtech playbook, and the Meta execs know that as well.
This would be interesting if any of it were true in the case of OAI. They haven't captured the market and they don't appear as if they will. They're at the losing end of Anthropic and Google right now. The Meta execs OAI has don't understand the game today, in my opinion based on their approach.
> And I say this as someone who founded & exited their own adtech platform. > I would not recommend OpenAI to start developing an RTB platform right now at all. Just first prove there is a market and the value is there.
So OAI, their financials, their business models, their number of customers and their competition all aligned with your exit in adtech? Somehow I doubt it, but feel free to share.
> Google bought / acquired themselves into the online adtech market mostly. Yes they have adwords, which was only really becoming something a decade after Google launched, which they paired with their acquisition of half the adtech giants (DoubleClick, Invite and AdMeld). So yeah, not a great example.
Actually, it is a good example. Because when Google did this they had zero competition. Now Google is the competition. So, yeah... In line with the new reality. You don't get to compare OAI with Google 20+ years ago.
> This is just a useless attack for no reason.
No, it's reality for a lot of us. Altman is tied to a lot of unsavory players. If you want to apologize for these types of people then feel free to be their cheerleader. The great part of HN is that these comments have and carry market sentiments (all across the board). I could say your comments are useless, out-of-touch, founder drivel... But I haven't.
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None of those examples are "run an internet search".
I don't understand. you can talk to chatgpt without an account, what's the difference? both are a limited subset of what the companies offer, available for free