Uninstall TikTok, listen to less shitty music, have less first world problems.
Everything we like is a psyop?
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#172They're violating ad labeling laws and the FTC should come down hard on them. While Republicans pretend to be against defunding of police that's only the police for poor people, commercial and rich people police have suffered all kinds of defunding and kneecapping at their hands. We need an aggressive war on slop or democracy is not going to make it.
It is a quite strange view of democracy to think that it can resist tyrants but not spam of advertisements.
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#173Bill Hicks had a really good point when he said people who work in advertising or marketing should kill themselves. They turn everyone elses experiences to shit just so they can have more money.
Wouldn’t it be wiser to ignore the messages of adversaries and marketers rather than suggesting people kill themselves? Who hasn’t fallen prey to marketing and propaganda on social media?
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#174Dang, that hurt to read. I'm starting up a new news-ish site like the old TheServerSide.com, at https://bytecode.news , and I'm faced with the question of "how do I generate traffic in the face of AI and all the people willing to market, market, astroturf, market, market?" I'm not that kind of personality, I don't want to do tiktok or whatever the kids do, I'd far rather accept organic and slow growth over meteoric a…
Trusted news orgs around the world tend to have centuries of history behind them. If you actually did it right, it should long outlive you, with the speed of growth being largely irrelevant.
Looking at your site, you have a mission statement in your About page that roughly says "scrape other sources for anything relevant and interesting." Nothing about staffing, who you are, who your editors are, whether you even have editors. Every story seems to have the byline "DREAMREAL," which doesn't sound like a person.
It doesn't seem to me like you're interested in running a news org. It seems like you're dissatisfied with your ability to find things interesting to you in a single place and are trying to scratch that itch, probably in a mostly-automated way. I can sympathize with that, but a personal knowledge base with outgoing links to the original sources isn't a news org. By all means, share it. Maybe six other people in the world have exactly the same interests you do, but this is a far cry from journalism and you probably shouldn't frame it that way.
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#175Bill Hicks had a really good point when he said people who work in advertising or marketing should kill themselves. They turn everyone elses experiences to shit just so they can have more money.
Wouldn’t it be wiser to ignore the messages of adversaries and marketers rather than suggesting people kill themselves? Who hasn’t fallen prey to marketing and propaganda on social media?
Well, i highly recommend reacting to advertising aggressively in order to store the memory along with a feeling of repulsion (e.g. swearing, middle finger) to attempt to dissaude the subconscious from retrieving it without revulsion in the future.
I think the point of the bit though is to aggressively point out that advertising corrupts our world for their benefit and if advertisers or marketers had a soul they'd realise they were actively making the world worse and move to a different industry. Meaning the only ones the message is for are sociopaths that know what they're doing and don't care.
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#176Earlier quoted context omitted.
Too bad he then became Alex Jones.
What do you mean? He pretty much died at the peak of his career in comedy. I don’t remember any Alex Jonesy material
The commenter is referencing a conspiracy that Bill Hicks faked his death and became Alex Jones. This imo was less stupid some years ago when Jones could conceivably be seen as an exaggerated satirical caricature, though it's very hard to imagine Bill Hicks taking the bit this far now
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#177Earlier quoted context omitted.
Too bad he then became Alex Jones.
What do you mean? He pretty much died at the peak of his career in comedy. I don’t remember any Alex Jonesy material
Was supposed to be somewhat of a joke but I forgot emoji can't be submitted in comments.
If you're curious though: https://rumble.com/v5495j6-matthew-north-psyop-alex-jones-is...
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#178Dang, that hurt to read. I'm starting up a new news-ish site like the old TheServerSide.com, at https://bytecode.news , and I'm faced with the question of "how do I generate traffic in the face of AI and all the people willing to market, market, astroturf, market, market?" I'm not that kind of personality, I don't want to do tiktok or whatever the kids do, I'd far rather accept organic and slow growth over meteoric a…
"Dang that hurt to read, here's an advertisement!" Why is this every 3rd comment on this site? Every single post has multiple comments that are "I hate that, here's my solution"
> "I hate that, here's my solution"
HN comments have always been like that, or rather "here's my approach to circumvent that annoyance".
What's your alternative? I prefer that style over comments that stop already at "I hate that", as curiosity should be more than an expression of a dismissive opinion.
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#179I enjoyed watching Adam Ruins Everything. But it was a bit weird. It didn’t ruin everything. It’s just about how seemingly every American thing is a marketing “psyop”. I’m not an American so learning about how spending X amounts of salary on a specifically diamond engagement ring or something is a Diamond Industry (or something) marketing campaign didn’t really “ruin” it for me since I don’t have warm and fuzzy feelings around it. But I imagine that’s the same for many Americans.
There are many this-is-just-what-is-done “values” that were discussed like this. Not quite as on-the-nose as spend this ridiculous amount of your salary on specifically X ring.
I’m not singling out America here. I don’t think this shows that it is a uniquely American thing. It is just very convenient for me: I’m not part of the culture so I can watch a little from the outside. And America is a big country (we are told) so naturally there are pop-exposes like this. I do not expect the same amount of resources to be poured into my own corner of the world and all the “organic” things that we value. But that show helped me think about all the things closer to home that might be influencing me.
And since then, or before it, I’ve believed that all of society is a marketing gimmick. The asymmetry of mass media is too great in favor of Big Bad Things (governments, corporations).
What a weird feeling. To know (or believe) that you are a spoiled brat in terms of access to information, many conveniences and such (except my mortgage), and that it just comes at the small price of a Panopticon of constant brainwashing.
And so you go about your day. A Special Occassion on this and that day, which is just a marketing campaign to sell you gifts that you are obligated to buy on this Special Occassion. You know it. But you go along with it. Because what are you going to do? Complain at the nearest plaza to drones like you that also knows the truth but go along with it because it’s just the way things are done and anyway no one cares about your particular eight-page manifesto on how society is slightly broken?
As to the article, naive to the point of being suspect, even. This has been going on for let’s say a long time. But as usual the classic outlet is the Evil Corporation with stupid-arse names like Chaotic Good who has some hateable yuppie press release person who just says, Yes, the Internet is bot-filled and there is a demand and we fill it, in fact we are so proud of it. It’s just, hey these people are doing it, look, it’s these people right here.
But the reality is so insidious and rotten that TikTok Comments on Demand Inc. and Korean Executive-created K-pop is just a farcically shallow treatment of it.
Am I saying that TFA is a psyop?
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#180Earlier quoted context omitted.
That can be automated quite easily these days. Just make your bot/scraper scan for anything that blames something or otherwise fits narratives that can be used as a vehicle of your own promotion, and hit that. P.S. Not necessarily implying that the grandparent resorted to that.
Please keep in mind that such a use is against the Guidelines[0] and will be downvoted and flagged rather quickly. Since 2023 I always check the creation date of a user before I click on any link in their comment. [0]: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
>will be downvoted and flagged rather quickly.
You wish. It is becoming harder every day to find genuine comments or technical insights at the top of HN sections instead of blind love/hate for trendy topics.