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Re: Google broke its promise to me – now ICE has my data

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Agree. Google can't go against the all-mighty state. Just look at what Anthropic did and the effect of that action. There are billions of dollars at stake on government contracts that they can't afford to lose. Reminds me of Mullvad's ad https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPzvUW8qaWY

The whole notion that Google (or Apple or anyone else) should ignore and flaunt the state is insane by itself. I don't want megacorps to ignore our EU laws just like I don't want them to ignore US laws. They're not people, they don't get the right to disobedience.

It is the US administration that is flaunting the law, not Google. Nobody is actually asking Google to break the law, they are in fact asking it to follow the law by not complying with illegal requests.

Re: Google broke its promise to me – now ICE has my data

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This story is the one that finally pushed me to leave google. I moved off my ~20 year old Google account and deleted everything off their services including almost a decade of Google photos. I cancelled my Google one subscription for extra space. I'm now self hosting what I can and paying proton mail for everything else. I refuse to allow a company that will hand over data at the request of an administrative warrant…

Migrating is such a good feeling. You don't have to do it all at once, either: I migrated to fastmail over the course of several years. Each time google did something that got my blood pressure up I went into my password manager and migrated another account. In aggregate it was a hassle, but these days I almost miss the feeling of being able to do something in response to stinky actions from google.

I've migrated everything from Google except for Google Voice. I have yet to find an alternative that can match the feature set and ease of use, regardless of the cost.

Re: Google broke its promise to me – now ICE has my data

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You should have been "all ears" during the election...

Chase Oliver was the only non-writein person on my ticket that even bothered to put up much pretenses of running on a privacy and civil liberties ticket.

I do get that. Both parties are clearly bad. But one in particular is and was yelling from the rooftops about how they were going to destroy civil liberties of certain groups, and are now doing exactly what they promised.

Everyone must simultaneously fight for a better system and choose the least-worst option when it comes time for an election.

Re: Google broke its promise to me – now ICE has my data

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> The number of HNers who were earnestly arguing that this was the party of free speech Do you think any of them were sincere?

I work in this industry. I sample the same distribution in person. I don't think they were, I know they were.

Which industry? Tech? Surveillance? Government? I know my father in law is a MAGA racist who believes whatever makes it easy to justify his own beliefs. I’m not sure you can ever reliably judge someone’s true motives in a professional setting.

Re: Google broke its promise to me – now ICE has my data

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Cell carriers sell geofenced data about cell phones in an area at a given time to anyone. There's zero privacy. KYC laws mean that his carrier has his name and email address and the feds probably got that without anyone informing the customer.

Or there may be more to the story than he's telling.

Guy seems to have earned himself a ban from entering Cornell’s premises[1]. They seem to be letting him finish [2], which tracks—they’re pretty chill IME. Something might’ve went down…

[1]: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/oct/05/palest...

[2]: https://panthernow.com/2026/03/03/international-students-sel...

Re: Google broke its promise to me – now ICE has my data

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The number of HNers who were earnestly arguing that this was the party of free speech indicates that this absolutely needs to be on the HN front page. > the administration’s rhetoric about cracking down on students protesting what we saw as genocide forced me into hiding for three months. Federal agents came to my home looking for me. A friend was detained at an airport in Tampa and interrogated about my whereabouts.

If it helps you feel better, I voted for free speech and feel that the administration did not hold up their end of the deal. The FTC’s recent “debanking” letter to the payment processors is just theater until something changes. I’ll leave it at that.

> the administration did not hold up their end of the deal

Trump? Not holding up his end of the deal? Who could have seen that coming!

Re: Google broke its promise to me – now ICE has my data

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I simply assume that everything that travels out of my home through a wire gets tracked and stored by the government. Everywhere you go, if your phone is in your pocket, you are being tracked and stored, and available to the government. Everywhere your car goes, is tracked and stored and available to the government. BTW, the J6 protesters were all tracked and identified by their cell phone data.

> BTW, the J6 protesters were all tracked and identified by their cell phone data. Many of the insurrectionists were also caught on camera in congress after they broke down the doors and stormed the building. Some even took selfies in the offices of various senators and house reps.

And now they're being let off and called "heroes" by the United States Government.

Re: Google broke its promise to me – now ICE has my data

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I still don't understand. Who gave ICE such power, and who is ordering them to do all this? To me, ICE's actions are similar to those of a private army.

The people. We voted for the people who gave the power, and we re-elected them. It’s really that simple. Is it “too late” now? maybe, but we had ~25 years since this all started post 911 to react, and chose not to.

Re: Google broke its promise to me – now ICE has my data

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The number of HNers who were earnestly arguing that this was the party of free speech indicates that this absolutely needs to be on the HN front page. > the administration’s rhetoric about cracking down on students protesting what we saw as genocide forced me into hiding for three months. Federal agents came to my home looking for me. A friend was detained at an airport in Tampa and interrogated about my whereabouts.

If it helps you feel better, I voted for free speech and feel that the administration did not hold up their end of the deal. The FTC’s recent “debanking” letter to the payment processors is just theater until something changes. I’ll leave it at that.

Ok but why? They did not campaign on freedom of speech or expression, they actively campaigned against both...

IMO there are no surprises from this admin, they are doing what they promised.

Re: Google broke its promise to me – now ICE has my data

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If "led by the nose into bombing Iran" isn't being "owned by Israel," what is?

It totally is. Democrats got led into Israel's wars too. Interestingly the support was different, like Trump got money from the Adelsons and Biden from pro-Israel lobbies.

> Democrats got led into Israel's wars too.

Which ones?

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