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German police name alleged leaders of GandCrab and REvil ransomware groups

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Re: German police name alleged leaders of GandCrab and REvil ransomware groups

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What if it is of my belief that businesses should not exist, and a job should not be a requirement for basic needs.

You are entitled to your own beliefs, no matter how crazy they are. Society doesn’t have to be held hostage by them, though.

Show me the social contract I signed.

Re: German police name alleged leaders of GandCrab and REvil ransomware groups

#172

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What if it is of my belief that businesses should not exist, and a job should not be a requirement for basic needs.

So you suppose we should go back to foraging for berries and sheltering in caves?

it would be more human of an experience than this hell i endure everyday

Re: German police name alleged leaders of GandCrab and REvil ransomware groups

#173

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So you suppose we should go back to foraging for berries and sheltering in caves?

it would be more human of an experience than this hell i endure everyday

I agree that our economic system is cold, transactional, and cruel. The problem kinder systems always face is that the people indifferent to the cruelty of capitalism, exemplified by these extortionists, are still there in the alternative system. The alternative must develop countermeasures or fail. The countermeasures replicate the cold transactional cruelty of capitalism.

This isn't to say all countries are doing equally well or poorly, just that countries that came closest to eliminating what we call businesses were not generally regarded as kind, compassionate paradises by the people who lived there.

You sound depressed. I wish you well. I wish the world were kinder to idealists. May you find a supportive community within the indifferent wider world.

Re: German police name alleged leaders of GandCrab and REvil ransomware groups

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> Doxxing, on the other hand, is generally a process that violates the fundamental right to privacy. It historically was used for this exact case: revealing someone hiding behind a pseudonym for purposes of law enforcement. The term dates back to the 90s, if not earlier. This isn't something Gen Z made up. It's a Gen X term. "Hack the gibson" era. Wargames era.

Doxxing is basically a DDOS reflection attack but for real violence, or threat thereof, instead of 1s and 0s. I might want to do violence upon you for some reason. Maybe I hate you. Maybe you're doing something that I don't like. If I'm lucky I can round up half a dozen buddies to help. But I don't have infinite resources and infinite reach, so my capability is rather laughable unless you live next door. Buuuut, if I…

Okay, so based on the object reality of how doxxing was originally used as a term, it follows from your comment that if your goal is to get someone arrested by law enforcement, that costs as "real violence."

Then it follows, given your description of the motivation of German police, that they are trying to induce "real violence" upon the people, and therefore the German police doxxed them.

Re: German police name alleged leaders of GandCrab and REvil ransomware groups

#175

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Doxxing a hostile act. If it's negative depends on if you think they deserve the hostility.

Most people who dox for a reason they think is justified will nonetheless reject the label of doxing for what they did. They'll say "I didn't dox him, I just discovered publicly available but obscure information about him and posted it."

> Most people who dox for a reason they think is justified will nonetheless reject the label of doxing for what they did

In my experience, plenty people use "doxxing" to refer to their own actions positively. There are even calls to action: "let's doxx him"

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