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Re: Delve removed from Y Combinator

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Post by tim333 »

maxbond wrote: post #34

I'm getting the impression that a lot of people in this thread think this is because they violated an open-source license and saying things to the effect of, "they're just the ones who got caught". I also thought that was the scandal initially. (And when it comes to license violations, yes, there's absolutely more where that came from.) But that's just the cherry on top. I don't think they're being thrown out because…

There's quite a good summary of the allegations here https://www.reddit.com/r/startups/comments/1rz15ui/i_will_no...

>Pre-written audit conclusions. The "Independent Service Auditor's Report" and all test conclusions were already filled in before clients had even submitted their company descriptions...

>Copy-paste templates. 493 out of 494 leaked SOC 2 reports (99.8%) had identical text, same grammatical errors, same nonsensical descriptions...

Re: Delve removed from Y Combinator

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Post by robotswantdata »

nfw2 wrote: post #61

It's not just about delve. It's about yc's model. YC encourages YC companies to trust other YC companies even though they are early. If you can't trust your batch mates for something as crucial as compliance, the model doesn't work.

Seems crazy that anyone (startups and buyers) would trust these guys for audit.

Shows the “compliance theatre” of what SOC2 has become

Re: Delve removed from Y Combinator

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Post by thaumasiotes »

The headline here says "Delve removed from Y Combinator", but the link doesn't go to a statement by Y Combinator. It goes to a 404.

Is there reason to believe that Delve has been removed from Y Combinator, the organization, or is this more an announcement that Delve has been removed from Y Combinator's website?

Re: Delve removed from Y Combinator

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Post by woadwarrior01 »

dmos62 wrote: post #128
jacquesm wrote: post #112

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I came across a top tier compliance auditor doing the same thing recently. I tried to talk to them about it and rather than approaching this from a constructive point of view they wanted to know the name of the company that got certified so they could decertify them and essentially asked me to break my NDA. That wasn't going to happen, I wanted to have a far more structural conversation about this and how they probab…

Have you considered whistleblowing?

I'd called out fraud (blatant lying in investor updates) at a VC backed startup where I was a technical co-founder, once. I emailed all the investors and presented all the evidence to them. They decided to not rock the boat and keep my charlatan co-founder. So, I left. Now, the company is slowly bleeding to death.

Re: Delve removed from Y Combinator

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Post by progbits »

robotswantdata wrote: post #173
nfw2 wrote: post #61

It's not just about delve. It's about yc's model. YC encourages YC companies to trust other YC companies even though they are early. If you can't trust your batch mates for something as crucial as compliance, the model doesn't work.

Seems crazy that anyone (startups and buyers) would trust these guys for audit. Shows the “compliance theatre” of what SOC2 has become

It's always been one.

Every single technical auditor I've dealt with has been majorly incompetent and wanted to do things that would decrease security. And these were not some cheap bottom of the barrel companies but the big "industry leaders".

Re: Delve removed from Y Combinator

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Post by hdgvhicv »

throwaway27448 wrote: post #107
fontain wrote: post #98

Earlier quoted context omitted.

YC has no problem with morally questionable behavior, many YC startups do things that are just as shady. YC is, ultimately, not responsible for what these startups choose to do. Delve’s problem is that they betrayed so many other YC companies in the process. An important value of being in YC is access to a ready-made customer base. The licensing issue is nothing compared to their fake audits but it is an affront to t…

> YC is, ultimately, not responsible for what these startups choose to do. Of course they're responsible for their investments; they're just not liable. YC has a lot to answer for in the damage it's wreaked over the years.

The “I just have the arsonist the match, I didn’t tel him to strike it” approach of tech bros has caused untold damage to the world over the last 20 Years.
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