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U.S. stocks are set to deliver their worst quarter in nearly four years

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Re: U.S. stocks are set to deliver their worst quarter in nearly four years

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Post by the_doctah »

paxys wrote: post #61
chadash wrote: post #54

Bad quarter for certain, but to keep things in perspective, the S&P is still up 13% over the past 12 months (likely 14% as soon as the market opens in 20 minutes). There's nothing magical about a "quarter". Had Q1 2025 ended 4 days later, it would have been significantly worse than this, but then the market went on to have a huge rally after that.

A year ago was exactly the market bottom due to tariff drama. 13% up from that isn't exactly a shining achievement. Go back another couple months to when Trump took office and the total gains have been ~3.5%. A couple more random missile strikes and it'll go into the negative. The only people making money in today's market are those with insider info about US economic and military actions (aka Trump and his associate…

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Post by lcnPylGDnU4H9OF »

mrits wrote: post #168
alsetmusic wrote: post #166

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Try being in a relationship with someone who may become a target of the administration due to their status as a resident (but not citizen) of the USA and tell me the outcomes don't change. You're right. I need to calm down. It's all theater that doesn't impact real people. We can just go about our merry way because no one has been kidnapped by federal agents in defiance of judicial orders.

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But there are plenty which allow someone to stay legally.

Re: U.S. stocks are set to deliver their worst quarter in nearly four years

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Post by wrboyce »

JKCalhoun wrote: post #148
iso1631 wrote: post #78

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If you voted for Trump over an inanimate carbon rod then you'd need your head examining. But America still likes him. The only thing that's tarnished him is that it costs a little more to drive a gas guzzler

"inanimate carbon rod" I like that—wherever it came from. (And inanimate strangely sells it even harder.)

https://simpsons.fandom.com/wiki/Inanimate_Carbon_Rod

Re: U.S. stocks are set to deliver their worst quarter in nearly four years

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Post by lcnPylGDnU4H9OF »

the_doctah wrote: post #173
buellerbueller wrote: post #81

Worst President Ever.

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TDS (edit: Trump Derangement Syndrome) actually pretty well describes the cult following Trump has. His charisma and messaging cause literal derangements in their thinking. Every accusation is an admission, yet again.

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Post by franktankbank »

JKCalhoun wrote: post #43
gbil wrote: post #38

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Sorry guys I don't follow US politics in such depth to get the sarcasm here. Well played by the OP in this context.

A bit of humorous auto-tuning of the hearing: https://youtu.be/Q71Xb1Sd86M

holy shit

Re: U.S. stocks are set to deliver their worst quarter in nearly four years

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Post by mapontosevenths »

vrganj wrote: post #53
mapontosevenths wrote: post #47

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> So desperate to be valued and liked, that he desperately grabs at anything and everything to get the acclaim Like all billionaires, he is an empty void that can never be filled. To borrow a phrase, he is a hungry ghost. After his first million he needed more, then after a billion he saw that it was not enough, then after becoming president... he is, was, and always will be an empty hole of a person who can never fe…

It's time we take seriously the pathology behind billionaires. You can't become one as a person with basic empathy. To do so is a moral failing.

Earlier I said "all billionaires", and that wasn't fair.

To be clear, there are some who turn Capitalism into a religion (objectivists, and the like), and to them it can be moral. They at least seek to serve a moral good, even if I disagree about the means I can appreciate that their goal is still to make the world a better place.

Trump is not one though. He is utterly devoid of morality and seeks only to fill an endless black need for external validation.

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Post by mindslight »

lcnPylGDnU4H9OF wrote: post #176
the_doctah wrote: post #173

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TDS (edit: Trump Derangement Syndrome) actually pretty well describes the cult following Trump has. His charisma and messaging cause literal derangements in their thinking. Every accusation is an admission, yet again.

Spot on! I've noticed that the motorists yelling at protests have become smaller in numbers, but more unhinged. Like red in the face screaming.

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Post by WillAdams »

seanmcdirmid wrote: post #161
WillAdams wrote: post #155

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The problem is, in the past, the on-going increase in payouts was covered by increasing populations --- much of the world is now at a stable, or even negative population change state for the foreseeable future, so that well is going dry --- the passing away of the Baby Boomers in the U.S. represents the larges transfer of personal wealth in human history, and a lot of it is going into geriatrics/nursing homes --- wha…

Thats the old fashioned plan: have lots of kids to fund your retirement. Today, we are investing in AI, automation, and robots, which is similar if you think about. We don’t need a population increase if robots are doing the work instead. China is a good example of making these investments aggressively right now to deal with their demographic cliff.

That's a nice idea, and if such devices aren't used to further concentrate wealth for their owners, that would work --- the problem is, LLMs and the robotics which they facilitate look to be the first major technological advance where the enlarging of the economy which they afford does not bring about a commensurate increase in the number of jobs.
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