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Samsung Magician disk utility takes 18 steps and two reboots to uninstall

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Re: Samsung Magician disk utility takes 18 steps and two reboots to uninstall

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Post by krsw »

didgetmaster wrote: post #147
ncr100 wrote: post #125

Earlier quoted context omitted.

[ Thank you for "PartitionMagic" - crucially important for home / personal computer users, at least in my own history. ] And, I wonder if a (corporate) development organization's overall cultural friction around critical / negative feedback -- in this case integration issues in the technical sense of pulling together modules built by subteams to compose a final product -- could be worth investigating when challenging…

Thank you and to all the others who remember and liked PartitonMagic. It makes an old programmer feel good to know that something he worked on 30 years ago made a difference. BTW: I am currently working on a hobby project called Didgets. It is an object store that does a lot of cool file system stuff and relational table manipulation and analysis. It is available for free download at http://www.didgets.com The instal…

PartitionMagic saved me so many times. Fantastic software to fix whatever Disk Management broke.

Re: Samsung Magician disk utility takes 18 steps and two reboots to uninstall

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Post by ValentineC »

vbezhenar wrote: post #78
GeekyBear wrote: post #46

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When a user mode application on the Mac doesn't just allow you to drag the app into the applications folder to install, it's a red huge red flag. Personally, I'd look for another alternative from a company that better understands the Mac. Chrome, for instance, previously used an installer that had to run with administrative permissions and famously ended up rendering systems unbootable. System utilities and drivers a…

Mac apps often do various things on your computer. Just because you dragged it to Bin, doesn't mean there are no leftovers on your computer. I'd prefer proper uninstaller any day.

I use AppCleaner: https://freemacsoft.net/appcleaner/

Raycast has a built-in uninstaller as well.

Re: Samsung Magician disk utility takes 18 steps and two reboots to uninstall

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Post by sunnybeetroot »

ValentineC wrote: post #172
vbezhenar wrote: post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Mac apps often do various things on your computer. Just because you dragged it to Bin, doesn't mean there are no leftovers on your computer. I'd prefer proper uninstaller any day.

I use AppCleaner: https://freemacsoft.net/appcleaner/ Raycast has a built-in uninstaller as well.

Pear cleaner is the successor, you’re welcome :)

https://github.com/alienator88/Pearcleaner

Re: Samsung Magician disk utility takes 18 steps and two reboots to uninstall

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Post by zemvpferreira »

didgetmaster wrote: post #147
ncr100 wrote: post #125

Earlier quoted context omitted.

[ Thank you for "PartitionMagic" - crucially important for home / personal computer users, at least in my own history. ] And, I wonder if a (corporate) development organization's overall cultural friction around critical / negative feedback -- in this case integration issues in the technical sense of pulling together modules built by subteams to compose a final product -- could be worth investigating when challenging…

Thank you and to all the others who remember and liked PartitonMagic. It makes an old programmer feel good to know that something he worked on 30 years ago made a difference. BTW: I am currently working on a hobby project called Didgets. It is an object store that does a lot of cool file system stuff and relational table manipulation and analysis. It is available for free download at http://www.didgets.com The instal…

PartitionMagic was one of the first programs to make me feel like I was in control of my computer. I don't think about it much but looking back it was an important part of my development as a technologist. You made a difference in lots of lives I'm sure!

Re: Samsung Magician disk utility takes 18 steps and two reboots to uninstall

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Post by EliRivers »

didgetmaster wrote: post #33

I worked on a disk utility in the 90s called PartitionMagic that was one of the first ones to let you dynamically resize disk partitions. Maybe Samsung used that when naming their product. I am old, but I miss the days when the install process was copy . to / and the uninstall process was delete /

Thank you for PartitionMagic. In the late nineties I cut my teeth repeatedly building and breaking windows PCs. PartitionMagic was a core tool. I regularly see its echoes today in GParted.

Re: Samsung Magician disk utility takes 18 steps and two reboots to uninstall

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Post by ahartmetz »

DougN7 wrote: post #153
didgetmaster wrote: post #147

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thank you and to all the others who remember and liked PartitonMagic. It makes an old programmer feel good to know that something he worked on 30 years ago made a difference. BTW: I am currently working on a hobby project called Didgets. It is an object store that does a lot of cool file system stuff and relational table manipulation and analysis. It is available for free download at http://www.didgets.com The instal…

I LOVED Partition Magic. It really was magic!

It was pretty important at the time to make room for dual-booting Linux. Linux setup tools couldn't do it back then, particularly shrinking FAT let alone NTFS filesystems. PartitionMagic made it super easy. It felt slightly wrong to need a Windows software to install Linux, but great tool.

Re: Samsung Magician disk utility takes 18 steps and two reboots to uninstall

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Post by stainablesteel »

ryandrake wrote: post #65

> I shut down my Mac. Held the power button. Booted into Recovery Mode. Opened Terminal. Ran csrutil disable. Rebooted. Opened Terminal. Deleted the kernel extensions. Ran find to confirm they’re gone. Shut down AGAIN. Booted into Recovery Mode AGAIN. Ran csrutil enable. Rebooted AGAIN. All this just to delete four dead files and their mirrors from a disk utility. This one is entirely on Apple. It was Apple who decid…

i get this is annoying, but any of this supposed to be some kind of safety measure for users against malicious actors?

Re: Samsung Magician disk utility takes 18 steps and two reboots to uninstall

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Post by asdff »

xp84 wrote: post #93
post-it wrote: post #80

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I started developing for my Mac a few weeks ago and I'm blown away by how easy it is to make an app that feels Mac native and includes quality of life features like CloudKit sync across all your devices. It's become clear that most companies don't give the tiniest shit about any of that.

It's obvious why they wouldn't give a shit about that, though - the Mac is not their main focus. Most companies that make software for PCs are obliged to make at least Windows and Mac versions, and to build an application "The Apple Way," using SwiftUI, and things like "CloudKit" etc. would mean a whole dedicated Mac-experienced design team and Mac-experienced engineering team. This would result in an app that fundam…

>This would result in an app that fundamentally works and behaves differently than their app would on Windows, because these operating systems have different conventions and standards.

Not always the case. Sometimes the gui app is just wrapping some script written in a general purpose language. Button just calls a function. Yes writing the function to draw the ui button element might take a different syntax, but they might go on to run the same underlying function.

At least that is how I like to write my gui software.

Re: Samsung Magician disk utility takes 18 steps and two reboots to uninstall

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Post by asdff »

vbezhenar wrote: post #78
GeekyBear wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When a user mode application on the Mac doesn't just allow you to drag the app into the applications folder to install, it's a red huge red flag. Personally, I'd look for another alternative from a company that better understands the Mac. Chrome, for instance, previously used an installer that had to run with administrative permissions and famously ended up rendering systems unbootable. System utilities and drivers a…

Mac apps often do various things on your computer. Just because you dragged it to Bin, doesn't mean there are no leftovers on your computer. I'd prefer proper uninstaller any day.

If you are aware of this not hard to manage. Grep. rm -rf. Done. Usually its pretty tiny folders at least. Heavier stuff usually software makes a directory under Documents. Kinda nice in a few cases having it set up like this. For example I can delete the app but preserve my config. Drop the app right back again and no setup its turnkey and works.
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