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Re: Neovim 0.12.0

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Post by eviks »

dizhn wrote: post #87
eviks wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You'd do text editing with it with the coolest feedback loop - immediately seeing the changes and what those changes apply to beforehand, that's different from having to repeat some macro multiple times

Highlighted search/replace does this pretty well too.

Not really, it only does it for the first edit, while multiple cursors offer continuous feedback for all further besides, search/replace has extra toolbar and usually can't as easily select, for example, "current Identifier under cursor" if those are different, so it's worse before the first edit as well

Re: Neovim 0.12.0

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Post by 0x1ceb00da »

himata4113 wrote: post #131

I swapped to neovim and never looked back. I don't even have vscode, jetbrains or anything similar installed anymore. AI has made it so so easy to get into neovim and make anything work no matter how obscure it is. The biggest benefit for me which I haven't realized how good it is with tmux and the low low memory usage. I mean I can keep EVERY project I work on open, quickly switch and maintain. No more 10gb memory u…

How many weird terminal bugs do you have in your setup? Eg one that annoys me the most is that pressing esc in insert mode often takes a few seconds to do its thing.

Re: Neovim 0.12.0

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Post by eviks »

camgunz wrote: post #75
wilkystyle wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

dot repeat is the wrong comparison. A closer one would be macros, but even then a good multiple cursors implementation is often faster, more intuitive, and requires less cognitive overhead. One of the better examples of the usefulness of multiple cursors is from Emacs Rocks (link goes to 0:23): https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jNa3axo40qM&t=23s

What do you when the things you want to change don't all fit on the screen at once?

That's one challenge I haven't seen editors tackle correctly by, e.g. having some special condensed view where only lined with cursors are shown so you can see more cursors on the screen and easier scroll around to see even more skipping the rest of the text (like some git diff tools do, showing only diffs with minimal context)

So you either cycle through cursors (if your editor has a concept of "primary cursor") to see before/after or you do it blindly and accept a chance to be wrong

Re: Neovim 0.12.0

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Post by hdra »

0x1ceb00da wrote: post #172
himata4113 wrote: post #131

I swapped to neovim and never looked back. I don't even have vscode, jetbrains or anything similar installed anymore. AI has made it so so easy to get into neovim and make anything work no matter how obscure it is. The biggest benefit for me which I haven't realized how good it is with tmux and the low low memory usage. I mean I can keep EVERY project I work on open, quickly switch and maintain. No more 10gb memory u…

How many weird terminal bugs do you have in your setup? Eg one that annoys me the most is that pressing esc in insert mode often takes a few seconds to do its thing.

any chance you have a key sequence mapping that starts with esc? sounds like its waiting to see if you are gonna be pressing another key before timing out and do its thing

Re: Neovim 0.12.0

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Post by jatins »

imjonse wrote: post #62

It probably goes against Vim tradition, culture and freedom to choose, but I wish they added even more built-in features (like Helix) that are currently implemented in competing and sometimes brittle plugins and have to be put together into also competing vim starter packs and distros of plugins and config files just to have a modern setup out of the box.

There are lot of readymade neovim configs you can copy. I was experimenting recently with lazy.vim and took a git clone and cp command to get up and running

Re: Neovim 0.12.0

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Post by jrop »

imjonse wrote: post #62

It probably goes against Vim tradition, culture and freedom to choose, but I wish they added even more built-in features (like Helix) that are currently implemented in competing and sometimes brittle plugins and have to be put together into also competing vim starter packs and distros of plugins and config files just to have a modern setup out of the box.

As others have said, the fact that they're letting the ecosystem settle before including something out-of-the box is beneficial in some sense. It's allowed time for experiments (including my own "how would I do UI in Neovim: morph.nvim [1]").

For some, this stage of a project attracts tinkerers and builders, and lets the community shape how things are done in the future. It's not always practical, but it does have a certain appeal.

[1] https://github.com/jrop/morph.nvim

Re: Neovim 0.12.0

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Post by 0x1ceb00da »

hdra wrote: post #174
0x1ceb00da wrote: post #172

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How many weird terminal bugs do you have in your setup? Eg one that annoys me the most is that pressing esc in insert mode often takes a few seconds to do its thing.

any chance you have a key sequence mapping that starts with esc? sounds like its waiting to see if you are gonna be pressing another key before timing out and do its thing

It happens randomly, which makes me think it's a bug.

Re: Neovim 0.12.0

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Post by Agentlien »

himata4113 wrote: post #131

I swapped to neovim and never looked back. I don't even have vscode, jetbrains or anything similar installed anymore. AI has made it so so easy to get into neovim and make anything work no matter how obscure it is. The biggest benefit for me which I haven't realized how good it is with tmux and the low low memory usage. I mean I can keep EVERY project I work on open, quickly switch and maintain. No more 10gb memory u…

I've been using Vim daily for 13 years and switched to NeoVim about a year of two ago. For me the main advantages over Vim are just the Lua scripting instead of Vimscript, its support for language servers, and better handling of terminals windows running inside Vim.

However, I do still run visual studio in parallel for debugging. It's basically essential when dealing with console game development.

Re: Neovim 0.12.0

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Post by Agentlien »

himata4113 wrote: post #160
jatora wrote: post #136

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Use windows and leave kernel panics behind :) i can tell you dont actually SSH often by tbe way. Also, tmux doesnt magically reduce resource requirements of your applications

What are you talking about, kernel panics are part of life with consumer hardware. They would happen even if it was windows? You're right. I don't use SSH that often due to kubernetes, infact I only use ssh for connecting to my desktop to access my tmux sessions and it's great. I know where you're trying to go with this and it's simply not true. Who said anything about tmux? We're talking about neovim which is extrem…

> kernel panics are part of life with consumer hardware.

This isn't right. It was certainly true in the nineties, but I haven't seen one in years on Windows and I spend many hours a day in it both for work and play.

Re: Neovim 0.12.0

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Post by mjrbrennan »

toisanji wrote: post #28

Is anyone using them vim with Claude or any of these coding tools? I want to, but I haven’t found a good workflow.

This is why I switched to cursor over the last few months out of nvim. Just wasn't any smooth first class integrations with AI tooling. I still use vim bindings there, and I use nvim for quicker edits, but the AI editing and Cursor Tab is just way better than the AI stuff in nvim.
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