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Mystery jump in oil trading ahead of Trump post draws scrutiny

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Post by rfrey »

kortilla wrote: post #131
pear01 wrote: post #101

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not that complicated. Elect a Democrat in 2028 who will nominate a strong AG, not a useless ditherer like Garland. What a disgraceful tenure he had. If he was going to take so long to bring charges he should have just avoided it. Instead he takes 3 years to bring all these charges which naturally look like election interference and as such are paused until they choke the election away and the new justice departm…

“It’s not that complicated. Give up your principles for short term house cleaning.” People with strong political beliefs are going to turn their head to keep their side in power rather than put someone in power that will push policies they are fundamentally against. Blagojevich was not replaced by a Republican. At this point presidential elections are won by getting members of the other side to stay home. So encourag…

What kind of reply is that? Nevermind the questionable style of making up a sentence and putting it in quotation marks, what about the comment you're replying to suggests giving up any principles?

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Post by smokedetector1 »

whamlastxmas wrote: post #167
acdha wrote: post #132

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s not different because of who’s doing it but due to scale: creating news which steers markets is worse than trading based on insider information, and there’s a scale question as well (billions versus millions). I want them both prosecuted but in terms of priorities I’d favor the police going after armed robbers over porch thieves.

I think this sort of thinking is why we have people who continue to vote against their own self interests. The fact is we really don't have enough information to make meaningful conclusions about which party is causing more harm with insider trading. It would take a team of accountants and lawyers years to confidently measure this. A random individual isn't going to assess this well. But because people confidently dr…

I am not a fan of the democrats - I think they are corrupt and have in many cases given up on being democratic, totally beholden to their donors.

That said, Trump is unbelievably obviously corrupt and doing immense, immediate, and obvious damage to the country in pursuit of personal enrichment. If you dont see this you are willingly blind.

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Post by dang »

chunky1994 wrote: post #158

@dang, this has way more discussion than the previous threa,d but people can't see this because it's a dupe.

Yes, I'm not sure what happened. Restored now.

p.s. @dang doesn't work - I only saw this randomly. For reliable (if sometimes delayed!) message delivery use hn@ycombinator.com.

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Post by tombert »

NegativeLatency wrote: post #106

Martha Stewart was sent to prison for less

I hear this a lot, but she did deserve to be punished. Her defense tried to act like she innocently and accidentally sold some stock based on something a friend told her, but they neglect to mention that she her career started as a stock broker and as such should have been familiar with regulations, and she was on the New York Stock Exchange’s board of directors during the scandal.

It's not some innocent mom who accidentally listened to some advice, she really should have known better.

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Post by evan_ »

benterix wrote: post #155
chinathrow wrote: post #104

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> Elect a Democrat in 2028 Does everyone still believe this will be possible/happen/allowed by the current regime?

>> Elect a Democrat in 2028 > Does everyone still believe this will be possible/happen/allowed by the current regime? Note the previous riot was unsuccessful. And probably he'll try something similar this time so the relevant services know what to expect.

I generally agree, but this time his VP isn't going to defect and he's been building ICE into a republican guard loyal only to him, so I think you can't just completely say "well it failed last time so it'll fail again"

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Post by 4ndrewl »

unyttigfjelltol wrote: post #133
saidnooneever wrote: post #80

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if a ground invasion goes they will destroy oil trade and everyone is screwed. The war should not be won. it should be ended before everyone loses.

I think you’re just seeing the logic of US defense by offense, and the reason why the excursion was launched as it was three weeks ago. If you step back, in 1979 Iran launched a revolution that had an avowed goal of “death to America”. If the Iranians play the kinetic scenario to the bitter end, they simply are demonstrating this was not mere poetry and there never was any other off-ramp, just tactically deciding at…

It's an incursion. He got confused and keeps saying excursion, which is a different thing.

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Post by ceejayoz »

IncreasePosts wrote: post #34
fraywing wrote: post #17

I'm growing pessimistic that this kind of activity + the egregious presidential-level crypto scams will never see justice. What's the path for that, really?

Zero when the president has the power to issue blanket pardons to his family and inner circle. Hell, he might even extend it fully to ICE. There's precedent too since the previous president pardoned his son for all crimes committed over a period of time.

> Hell, he might even extend it fully to ICE. There's precedent too since the previous president pardoned his son for all crimes committed over a period of time.

I love how people pretend this established some new kind of precedent.

Y'all keep forgetting Nixon.

"Now, Therefore, I, Gerald R. Ford, President of the United States, pursuant to the pardon power conferred upon me by Article II, Section 2, of the Constitution, have granted and by these presents do grant a full, free, and absolute pardon unto Richard Nixon for all offenses against the United States which he, Richard Nixon, has committed or may have committed or taken part in during the period from January 20, 1969 through August 9, 1974."

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Post by postflopclarity »

wellthisisgreat wrote: post #125
nostrademons wrote: post #58

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I think it's likely that they'll see justice in a chaotic way , ie not connected to the specific crime. Most likely outcome is that they make huge paper profits that are then absolutely worthless because the dollar collapses and the property rights that enforce the wealth they gained from these transactions disappear as the government is toppled. Another likely outcome is that they get in the habit of doing criminal…

> because the dollar collapses and the property rights that enforce the wealth they gained from these transactions disappear as the government is toppled. sorry but this is such a coping mechanism, or doomsday talking. Neither is dollar collapsing nor US government is collapsing, as there has been no evidence whatsoever of any of that even moving towards happening, at least on any meaningfully predictable timescale (…

> What is the evidence of US government being "toppled" with layers and layers and layers of diverse (financial, legal, military, political, social, you name it) protections in place?

I mean.

Do you read the news?

these protections are not working very well these days. the administration is getting away with _so much_ criminality in plain view.

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