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Passengers who refuse to use headphones can now be kicked off United flights

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Re: Passengers who refuse to use headphones can now be kicked off United flights

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Post by balamatom »

mothballed wrote: post #131
dymk wrote: post #106

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I did this on a bus and had a gun pulled on me, so your mileage may vary

Yes exactly. If they are blasting ethnic music while in an ethnic hood it is usually because they are repping their hood, and sometimes in a way to intentionally bait someone to say something. If you ask them to stop they will pretend it is a challenge on their hood/race (no matter that they will play it so loud everyone's ears are splitting and all they want is not to get hearing damage). I watched a guy pull out a…

>you've already consented to a battle.

More like you've already admitted cowardice, which makes you fair game. If it's the music that upsets you, come at me with louder speakers!

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Post by arikrahman »

pjmlp wrote: post #31

Is this really a thing?!? Blasting the others with unwanted noise. I never been in a flight, or train across Europe where passengers showed just lack of respect for the others. The only ones pumping anything loud, on trains or busses, usually get quickly pointed down by other passengers, personal or security. Ah, and then there are the rebellious kids or gangs, as the other exception, which usually don't take flights…

I am already embarassed when my headphone jack slips and everyone can hear a targeted ad putting me on blast. To do so intentionally never occured to me. It would be mortifying.

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Post by boxedemp »

wanderingstan wrote: post #95
mikkupikku wrote: post #34

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In America, a small number of people derive pleasure from being disruptive to everybody, and blasting music on public transit with captive audiences is a very "traditional" way of fucking with people and expressing your broad contempt for their society. I'd estimate that maybe one in five times you get on a city bus in America, you'll encounter somebody like this. Very rarely does anybody call them out or otherwise t…

My go-to technique has been to offer the offender a pair of headphones, saying something to insinuate that they must forgotten theirs or be too poor to afford them. Most of the time they say “oh I have headphones!” and then realize that they’ve outed themselves. (I stockpile the free headphones from gyms or airplanes, or get the $2 ones from AliExpress)

Big "Kill them with kindness" energy.

Re: Passengers who refuse to use headphones can now be kicked off United flights

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Post by vel0city »

SOLAR_FIELDS wrote: post #129
DaSHacka wrote: post #127

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You'd have a more convincing argument if you argued for a passenger with Tourette's or something. Bodily functions are obviously different from watching a movie at full volume, because there's never a situation where you would be involuntarily blasting the audio of your show or whatever to the whole plane.

Okay, Tourette’s then. Should we kick people off for Tourette’s? Your comment also presupposes two things: that flatulence is always involuntary and blasting music isn’t. Let’s say I have a form of Tourette’s that forces me to involuntarily blast noise and music and I have medical papers to prove it. Is it okay then? I would absolutely support it if you could demonstrate that those two things are actually true. My po…

Are you seriously making the argument blasting music or a movie or whatever is an involuntary bodily function?

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Post by boxedemp »

mikkupikku wrote: post #34
pjmlp wrote: post #31

Is this really a thing?!? Blasting the others with unwanted noise. I never been in a flight, or train across Europe where passengers showed just lack of respect for the others. The only ones pumping anything loud, on trains or busses, usually get quickly pointed down by other passengers, personal or security. Ah, and then there are the rebellious kids or gangs, as the other exception, which usually don't take flights…

In America, a small number of people derive pleasure from being disruptive to everybody, and blasting music on public transit with captive audiences is a very "traditional" way of fucking with people and expressing your broad contempt for their society. I'd estimate that maybe one in five times you get on a city bus in America, you'll encounter somebody like this. Very rarely does anybody call them out or otherwise t…

Happens in Canada too. Calling them out can be dangerous, people have been injured.

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Post by [deleted] »

zeroonetwothree wrote: post #156
sowbug wrote: post #97

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Another angle is kids who have been given a tablet as a pacifier. Their parents are often on autopilot, having checked out months or years earlier. On topic (and discussed already on HN): https://github.com/Pankajtanwarbanna/stfu

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Re: Passengers who refuse to use headphones can now be kicked off United flights

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Post by tombert »

_se wrote: post #168
tombert wrote: post #166

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On planes I've mostly seen it with people playing stuff for very young children. I've heard a lot of Cocomelon crap at full volume on planes because I guess parents don't want to have their kids use headphones. I sort of understand it but at the same time I also think it's pretty inconsiderate for the rest of the people on the flight who likely do not want to listen to their kid's awful YouTube show. In the NYC subwa…

Usually it's because the kid won't wear headphones. Not really an excuse, but a lot of the time the kid is just going to do what they want. What the parents should do in that situation is make them watch without sound, but that's harder than the alternative, so they just do whatever.

Or the parent should just take the phone away! If the kid won't listen to it quietly then they should do that thing that I believe is called "parenting". Bring a picture book or something for them if they need to be entertained without the phone.

This was done by my parents when I was a young kid. I wouldn't turn the volume down on my Game Boy on a flight, so my parents took it away from me until I promised to keep the volume down, which I did after that.

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Post by Aurornis »

zeroonetwothree wrote: post #156
sowbug wrote: post #97

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Another angle is kids who have been given a tablet as a pacifier. Their parents are often on autopilot, having checked out months or years earlier. On topic (and discussed already on HN): https://github.com/Pankajtanwarbanna/stfu

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I’ve brought a tablet on airplanes to watch movies with kids on long flights, but we bring headphones. Flights are the only time we do this.

There is nothing about a tablet or a flight that requires letting them blast audio at full volume. It’s not even a good experience.

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