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Despite doubts, federal cyber experts approved Microsoft cloud service

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Re: Despite doubts, federal cyber experts approved Microsoft cloud service

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Post by pc86 »

mastax wrote: post #40
debarshri wrote: post #13

Recently tried using Entra ID. There are 12 ways to enforce MFA, 20 days ways to disable users, 4 ways to authenticate users, Add conditional access stuff with 50 variables and templates etc. You can customize the way you want. After configuring it, my colleagues could not log in. Thats one way to secure your organization.

Out of all the SSO login flows Microsoft has to have the buggiest. It’s the only one I can remember routinely having issues with. Why are there so many redirects? And why doesn’t the “remember me” checkbox ever work?

Why, 20% when logging in, do I actually get logged out? I'm sorry if I was already logged in, why the hell are you asking me to log in again?

Having Microsoft on your resume is a huge red flag.

Re: Despite doubts, federal cyber experts approved Microsoft cloud service

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Post by gpderetta »

anonymsft318 wrote: post #87
everdrive wrote: post #51

The experts were correct. Azure is the biggest pile of shit I've ever had to work with. Everything feels evolutionary. In other words, a new product in azure is barely a product at all, but a small appendage which totally inherits a bunch of preexisting Azure "stuff." And all this preexisting stuff may not really make sense for the product, and it might inherit stuff that makes the product much worse. But, it doesn't…

As a Microsoftie of more than a decade... Yeah, I see this. We have an internal system called Cosmos[0] that does a great job of processing huge quantities of data very fast. And we sat on it for years while the rest of the industry moved to Spark and its derivatives. We finally released it as Azure Data Lake Analytics (ADLA) but did a shit job of supporting/promoting it. We built Synapse, and it's garbage. We've now…

Ah, I remember Cosmos and SCOPE from my time at MS ~15 years ago! It was actually pretty cool technology. So is it still around?

Re: Despite doubts, federal cyber experts approved Microsoft cloud service

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Post by Hizonner »

ContDestroyer wrote: post #169
Hizonner wrote: post #21

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Sure. Your average private corporation would do much better at sanely evaluating Microsoft's cloud, and sanely acting on that evaluation. Right. You bet. Absolutely.

Nope neither the public entity nor the private corporation... it should be the market. WE decide with our business who is worthy, or not. Nice try, comrade!

Fascinating.

Enlighten me further. How exactly will "the market" decide where the government, or a corporation, or even an individual, chooses to buy computing services? I'm very stupid, so you're going to have to explain step by step exactly how "the market" will do this. I mean, here I thought that choices like that were the inputs to the market.

Let's do it for the corporations first. I'm Microsoft. I need the market to decide for me where I should buy motherboards for my cloud data centers. Where do I apply to get "the market" to tell me that?

Re: Despite doubts, federal cyber experts approved Microsoft cloud service

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Post by crawdog »

Entropy is real. Microsoft has lessened the friction of purchasing vs their competitors. Public Sector this may be their only choice because they set the groundwork decades ago to do business with most organizations. It may not be the best solution, but it offers the least resistance to getting something up and running.

Re: Despite doubts, federal cyber experts approved Microsoft cloud service

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Post by asdff »

mastax wrote: post #40
debarshri wrote: post #13

Recently tried using Entra ID. There are 12 ways to enforce MFA, 20 days ways to disable users, 4 ways to authenticate users, Add conditional access stuff with 50 variables and templates etc. You can customize the way you want. After configuring it, my colleagues could not log in. Thats one way to secure your organization.

Out of all the SSO login flows Microsoft has to have the buggiest. It’s the only one I can remember routinely having issues with. Why are there so many redirects? And why doesn’t the “remember me” checkbox ever work?

It is still like this? I remember it being terrible trying to log into xbox.com 15 years ago.

Re: Despite doubts, federal cyber experts approved Microsoft cloud service

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Post by Spooky23 »

BizarroLand wrote: post #156
dralley wrote: post #151

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It's a shame. In the late 2010s there was a lot of hope for Satya Nadella, but it seems like the organization has regressed back to the mean.

Which is sad because the CEO's job is not to focus on the individual body parts but to make sure that the whole system is strong, beautiful, and healthy. They can afford people who would do better. Windows 11 is trash. Azure is trash. Onedrive is trash. Outlook is trashier than it has ever been before, but it's not quite trash yet. Word is trash. Excel is rapidly enshittifying. Copilot is hot flaming radioactive tar…

> Outlook is trashier than it has ever been before

Which one? There’s two now! Lol

Re: Despite doubts, federal cyber experts approved Microsoft cloud service

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Post by asdff »

ryandrake wrote: post #44
hedora wrote: post #29

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Same here, except with Minecraft and XBox One. I don’t understand how they have non-zero market share.

I remember trying to buy $9 worth of Minecraft In-app Whatever for my kid, and the goose chase Microsoft put me on just to log in and buy something was totally out of this world. I ended up needing to contact their fraud department around step 74.

Wow I had no clue they even had in app crap for minecraft. Got to put the kid on the java build.

Re: Despite doubts, federal cyber experts approved Microsoft cloud service

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Post by HeWhoLurksLate »

jeffrallen wrote: post #141
DrewADesign wrote: post #79

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Absolute contempt for their users at every level. It’s so transparent. This is the end game of anticompetitive practices for decades— they just don’t have to try anymore… for now. Some day they’ll either have to compete in good faith or sink. I doubt that will happen soon, but someday.

They have to compete in good faith for developers, which is why VS Code does not suck. But yes, normal Office users, where the company pays the bills, pay the price.

VS Code is also open source and forkable, the Windows kernel or Azure tech stack not so much

Re: Despite doubts, federal cyber experts approved Microsoft cloud service

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Post by asdff »

genthree wrote: post #93
alexpotato wrote: post #39

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For Minecraft they inherited a gigantic userbase from Mojang and then made it 10x harder to add new users.

I did it for my kids to have accounts and I do not understand how anyone who hasn't built a Gentoo from Stage 1 has a prayer of managing to buy Minecraft Java Edition for their kid, and making it actually work. Then you've got the hell of overlapping permissions systems on the console and the Microsoft account, to get any amount of online play working on a console if you also get Bedrock. On the Playstation, especial…

I was supposed to have a license through my alpha build purchase but microsoft made it impossible to transfer over. So now I just see it as my right to pirate the game until the end of time.
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