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OpenAI Has New Focus (on the IPO)

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Re: OpenAI Has New Focus (on the IPO)

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I've noticed that on a paid (Plus) plan: > If you want, I can also point out the one mistake that causes these [...] > If you want, I can also show one trick used in studios for [...] > If you want, I can also show one placement trick that makes [...]

These are also fantastic hooks for paid product placement (ads). > If you want, I can give you some beverage suggestions that go well with that recipe User > sure > Enjoy a refreshing, ice-cold Coca-Cola (tm)

> If you want, I can show you this one WEIRD TRICK doctors HATE!

Re: OpenAI Has New Focus (on the IPO)

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From the article: "You can see that in the recent iterations of ChatGPT. It has become such a sycophant, and creates answers and options, that you end up engaging with it. That’s juicing growth. Facebook style." This is something I relalized lately. ChatGPT is juicing growth Facebook style. The last time, I asked it a medical question, it answered the question, but ended the answer with something like "Can I tell you…

Yes, 5.4 seems to have added a Billy Mays feature. But wait, there’s more! They’re clearly trying to make this thing an addictive dopamine loop similar to infinite scroll apps.

Re: OpenAI Has New Focus (on the IPO)

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Have you used ChatGPT lately? What you describe is not quite what they are doing, they are adding nudges at the end of the follow-up question suggestions. For instance I was researching some IKEA furniture and it gives suggestions for followup, with nudges in parenthesis "IKEA-furniture many people use for this (very cool solution)" and at the end of another question suggestion: "(very simple, but surprisingly effect…

Yes, it very closely parallels the “one weird trick” bait from a decade ago.

I’ve seen it use “one weird trick” multiple times in its end of response baiting. Literally those words.

Re: OpenAI Has New Focus (on the IPO)

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From the article: "You can see that in the recent iterations of ChatGPT. It has become such a sycophant, and creates answers and options, that you end up engaging with it. That’s juicing growth. Facebook style." This is something I relalized lately. ChatGPT is juicing growth Facebook style. The last time, I asked it a medical question, it answered the question, but ended the answer with something like "Can I tell you…

Yes, 5.4 seems to have added a Billy Mays feature. But wait, there’s more! They’re clearly trying to make this thing an addictive dopamine loop similar to infinite scroll apps.

Imagine this applied to coding.

- Do you want to add that _cool_ feature users will love?

- Yes

...

Yes

You may end up with a software art piece.

Re: OpenAI Has New Focus (on the IPO)

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Gemini does the same thing. For every question it looks to extend the conversation into natural follow-up questions, always ending a response with "Would you like to know more about {some important aspect of the answer}?" And...I don't see it as a bad thing. It's trying to encourage use of the tool by reducing the friction to continued conversations, making it an ordinary part of your life by proving that it provides…

My impression is that Gemini does it in a quite natural way. It answers your questions, and then suggests possible related questions that you might ask, which I find useful. But ChatGPT feels extremely baity. Like it doesn't answer your question, but only 80% of it, leaving the other 20% on purpose for the bait. And then when you ask the second question it answers with another incomplete fact leaving things for the b…

It’s worse. It gives you all 4 seasons but suggests there’s a secret 5th season most people don’t know about.

Re: OpenAI Has New Focus (on the IPO)

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There’s a strong chance the IPO window has passed. I just don’t see investors willing to jump in here given all the questions about the financial viability of AI. The bulk of those investing now are broadly just pumping cash into the fire to keep their prior investments from going to zero. We have hit a mass deceleration of what the current tech can do with transformers. The tech is also on a path to hyper-commoditiz…

There’s a strong chance the IPO window has passed. I just don’t see investors willing to jump in here given all the questions about the financial viability of AI. My guess, it has barely started. I think nearly all AI IPOs have done well so far.

What AI IPOs?

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Gemini does it but not in a clickbaity way. It basically asks, at the end "would you like to know more about this specific or that specific"? Yes, there's some "growth hacking" bs, but prompting the user to ask more questions about details is a far distance from what oAI is doing. I agree it's all bad behavior, but in shades.

I found Gemini to keep asking the same follow-up questions regardless of my responses. In discussing a health topic, it repeatedly offered recipes for healthy snacks - 4 times, before I finally affirmatively said “no, I do not need snack recipes.” It dutifully stopped. Not quite clickbait, but it had very clearly decided where it wanted the conversation to go.

At least with Gemini, I found the trick is to add anything in any system instruction about a task list. Then the follow-up prompt will always be, do you want to add a task for that? Which is actually useful most of the time.

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From the article: "You can see that in the recent iterations of ChatGPT. It has become such a sycophant, and creates answers and options, that you end up engaging with it. That’s juicing growth. Facebook style." This is something I relalized lately. ChatGPT is juicing growth Facebook style. The last time, I asked it a medical question, it answered the question, but ended the answer with something like "Can I tell you…

it's only going to get worse once they go public, though maybe not in that specific way.

Re: OpenAI Has New Focus (on the IPO)

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From the article: "You can see that in the recent iterations of ChatGPT. It has become such a sycophant, and creates answers and options, that you end up engaging with it. That’s juicing growth. Facebook style." This is something I relalized lately. ChatGPT is juicing growth Facebook style. The last time, I asked it a medical question, it answered the question, but ended the answer with something like "Can I tell you…

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Re: OpenAI Has New Focus (on the IPO)

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The quoted revenue numbers seem insane, but I guess it's the result of corporate deals where every developer seat is hundreds of dollars a month? My job has been publicly promoting who's on top of the "AI use dashboard" while our whole product falls apart. Surely this house of cards has to collapse at some point, better get public money before it does.

I wish there was some sort of community project where engineers could whistleblow about their product falling apart through misguided AI pushes. I see it everywhere in my private circles, I'm not sure the story is truly reaching the big public. I've gone through many many fads and smoke during my career, but this is the first time I'm actually worried about things falling apart.

fatbabies from the dot com days
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