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Re: Life as an OnlyFans 'chatter'

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Post by thebruce87m »

shrubble wrote: post #53
autoexec wrote: post #22

How is this not fraud, or at least false advertising? If I'm paying money to chat with a specific sex worker how is it even legal to let some random dude in a third world country pretend to be the person I'm supposed to be talking to? I've never personally engaged in these types of systems, but I don't think there's a problem with them as long as they are run honestly. It sounds like Onlyfans is exploiting workers an…

This was done by “mail order bride” companies like those in Russia and Ukraine, that charge per message or letter sent back and forth, using their platform that does not allow for contact information to be shared; you are not talking to Anastasia but “Hairy Boris”! Later scams evolved to use prerecorded video clips etc. Which I assume is next for OF also.

What if I want to talk to Hairy Boris but I’m getting scammed by some blonde bombshell pretending to be him? I shudder at the thought.

Re: Life as an OnlyFans 'chatter'

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Post by danparsonson »

aucisson_masque wrote: post #161

Just put an ai behind it already. People will get bored of it and onlyfans will die by itself. If OF managements can't see what's coming, I think it's well deserved. Hell, there are even cases of only fans models being entirely AI. photo, video and chat entirely made by ai. I mean at this point you're better getting a chatgpt subscription, right ?

You're joking, right? Haven't you heard the stories of people having 'relationships' with their chatbots? Far from getting bored of these things, we're getting hooked on them.

Re: Life as an OnlyFans 'chatter'

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Post by danparsonson »

AstroBen wrote: post #170
Fricken wrote: post #25

Average wages in the Phillipines are around $360/month USD, so $2/hr isn't too bad for an easy job. BBC is playing rage-bait arbitrage with that headline.

That's fairly misleading because the average person around there is very poor. It's not what you'd consider average in a first world country.

True although prices are also not what you'd consider average in a developed country. Purchasing power parity is important too.

Re: Life as an OnlyFans 'chatter'

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Post by danparsonson »

hermitcrab wrote: post #156
sneak wrote: post #105

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sex work is work. They’re not being coerced. There’s no more or less dignity to it than being a waitress or checkout clerk. It’s no more or less disgusting than being a hospice nurse or a garbage collector. It’s just a job. Jobs are not inherently fraudulent, however. A deal is a deal, and this is plainly fraud. It is unfair to the purchaser, and it is not unfair to the people who voluntarily accept these jobs (when…

It is rather sad that a job they hate, that only pays ~$2/hour, is apparently the best option they have.

Doesn't 'a job I hate for not enough money' describe like 50% or more of the world's workforce?

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Post by scorpioxy »

vova_hn2 wrote: post #120
anovikov wrote: post #2

Now this is almost entirely automated anyway, there is a big adult ecosystem here in Cyprus and i talk to a lot of people. No manual work is used there anymore, "chatters" are a thing of the past. Now they are well on the path to automate OnlyFans models themselves, there are plenty of hybrid sites where known live models are attracted with good terms to bring in the users, and then slowly switched for AI ones, and i…

Saw a funny video [0] in the music-adjacent part of YouTube about an Instagram trend when man record themselves playing a musical instrument (usually guitar), then use AI video editing to turn themselves into scantily clad women and use these videos to lure people into viewing their adult content (also AI generated). [0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MqrJgjrBV2I (it's a very short video, only 45 seconds)

I noticed this thing on Youtube in general with cover images and I've always wondered if it was the content creator that does it or Youtube's platform. I find it both depressing and understandable that this is the kind of content that gets the most views.

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Post by peterlk »

johannes1234321 wrote: post #117
ahnick wrote: post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> laws are only as good as we have systems in place that are willing and ABLE to enforce them. The 'able' part is the critical insight. Laws are too often passed that really have no ability to be enforced, but end up adding bureaucratic processes that law abiding companies have to follow. This also implies that governments need to actively clean up existing laws, which almost never happens unless there is enough supp…

There is also that international problem. If an South American is frauded on an US American platform, by an east European using an African fake chatter: Which legislation, which court is applicable? Which oversight authority should handle this?

I don’t think this problem is that hard to solve, it just requires political will that doesn’t exist. The solution is to make it the platform’s problem. If the platform doesn’t want to deal with fraud, they don’t get to operate in that jurisdiction. Sue them into submission. If they don’t care about that geography, then there is now a gap in the market for a more local business to fill.

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Post by AstroBen »

danparsonson wrote: post #173
AstroBen wrote: post #170

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's fairly misleading because the average person around there is very poor. It's not what you'd consider average in a first world country.

True although prices are also not what you'd consider average in a developed country. Purchasing power parity is important too.

They're not low enough to offset the low wages, though. [0] puts $2/hr at around $15k/yr purchasing power in Chicago which sounds about right.

People live with families in multi-generational homes until they're married, sometimes after. Retirement plans are your kids looking after you.

Prices also aren't lowered across the board - it's mostly housing and anything where labor is a major part of the cost. Cars are similar prices. Groceries, utilities and tech also.

0: https://www.paritydeals.com/ppp-calculator/

Re: Life as an OnlyFans 'chatter'

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Post by system2 »

beejiu wrote: post #43
system2 wrote: post #41

I am still amazed that prostitution is legal when done online, and these teenage sex workers are allowed to continue selling themselves.

(a) It's not prostitution, and (b) while prostitution is illegal in the US it's perfectly legal in the UK and many other countries.

(A) https://reason.com/2025/05/28/is-buying-onlyfans-content-now...

(B) Just because the laws do not explicitly mention it does not make it less of a form of prostitution.

(C) Selling your body regardless of the medium is prostitution.

(D) I am looking at it from a moral perspective. Not legal. Let me know if you think selling your body is not prostitution.

Re: Life as an OnlyFans 'chatter'

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Post by system2 »

eucyclos wrote: post #131
system2 wrote: post #41

I am still amazed that prostitution is legal when done online, and these teenage sex workers are allowed to continue selling themselves.

Most of the risks if traditional prostitution are absent in an online interaction so it's not that surprising to me.

Morally, it is still prostitution. Some countries consider OnlyFans prostitution, some don't. At its core, a human is selling its body parts for money.

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Post by boxedemp »

PUSH_AX wrote: post #160
boxedemp wrote: post #146

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They paid to interact with a computer, and they did. On the Internet nobody knows I'm a dog, and that's ok.

This is not what is advertised, and if it was there would be no money in it.

I've been alive for several decades and almost nothing I've gotten was exactly as advertised.

I'm not saying that's good, but it's consistent with reality.

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