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Google just gave Sundar Pichai a $692M pay package

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Re: Google just gave Sundar Pichai a $692M pay package

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He runs the 2nd most valuable company in the world, and the company is most profitable company ever. Giving him 700m in stock to keep him around is worth it for both the investors and employees.

Isn't Google famous for the investors and the employees both being entirely powerless?

They spend 25b a year on stock compensation. Giving your CEO ~230m of that is probably okay.

Re: Google just gave Sundar Pichai a $692M pay package

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Companies structure is much more monarchic than almost all regimes in history. CEOs stand in the top position like Gods, having full power at will, and then all the others follow as his workers. He can easily earn multiple times more than the next highest in the company because his responsibility is elevated. So, the company can afford to pay huge sum to one person because he is the only one that is able to bring in multiples of this (eg fire people, increase the stock price, prepare for a sale off). Companies are not democracies, not even monarchies, they are machines with a single brain for strategy: the CEO's.

Re: Google just gave Sundar Pichai a $692M pay package

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One of the things that a CEO drives is vision and innovation. Sundar misses the mark on these things. AI is a good example. Google invented the transformer architecture, but simply published it for its competitors to use. It took a code red in 2023 to finally push Google to develop products based on this. Cloud. Years late to the game. All it would have taken is a letter similar to the famous Bezos memo to eventually…

> Google invented the transformer architecture, but simply published it for its competitors to use. That's how innovation works in this industry. If companies didn't allow researchers to publish their work it would set us back decades. Researchers building on each other's work is how this industry was built. > It took a code red in 2023 to finally push Google to develop products based on this. So Google executed. Abi…

"Ability to execute"

Lmao I love this. "Hey, engineers. Make something like that but better here's money, but only a fraction of what I'll make off it!"

Yeah, being a CEO is reeeally hard. Even when they fail they still walk out with >10m.

Re: Google just gave Sundar Pichai a $692M pay package

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Is this what motivates Sundar Pichai to work harder for Google? More money? Surely there's nothing he could want that he doesn't already have. I understand it's insulting to be paid less than other CEOs, and I get that it's a way of keeping score. All the same I think he's doing it for the power, the respect, the fame. Would he have walked away if the number was only $100m? Would that have been rational?

> Is this what motivates Sundar Pichai to work harder for Google? More money? Surely there's nothing he could want that he doesn't already have.

I think the confusion stems from mapping normal people money usage on people, that have much more money than they can use on themselves: They don't do that. You can use excess money to make things happen as you see fit.

Money enables you to do things in the world, and if you want to do things in the world, a few hundred million are very easily spent. I am sure most people around here would have no trouble allocating that amount of money towards something they would like to see happen or improved, and that's how a lot of money, that someone does not feel they need, is used.

Re: Google just gave Sundar Pichai a $692M pay package

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Getting a lump-sum payment at the end of three years is worse than getting paid incrementally, and is sort of the opposite of how insurance companies make money (which is taking frontloaded payments for long-term liabilities and investing the float).

You're thinking about cash. This is options

He is not getting options. ISOs have some interesting tax properties that are completely irrelevant to this.

Re: Google just gave Sundar Pichai a $692M pay package

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Which is completely meaningless. Anyone can sell a bunch of one dollar bills for 50 cents

That was the proper takeaway during Amazon.com’s preprofit stages.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Survivorship_bias

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They are a public company.

Private in that they're not owned by the taxpayers or government. Amtrak would be an example of a "public" company in the sense that I believe that the poster was describing.

These words have meaning already, and what they said makes no sense due to that. A public company has many obligations a private company doesn't, and more limitations on what it can do.

Re: Google just gave Sundar Pichai a $692M pay package

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> they are a private company They are a public company

Sorry I'm European, I mean "private" in the sense "not a Public Body", they are a company whose board has approved the remuneration using the company's own funds, meaning that the majority of shareholders are happy with this pay package.

The meaning is the same in "European". I'm Portuguese.

Re: Google just gave Sundar Pichai a $692M pay package

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Sorry I'm European, I mean "private" in the sense "not a Public Body", they are a company whose board has approved the remuneration using the company's own funds, meaning that the majority of shareholders are happy with this pay package.

The meaning is the same in "European". I'm Portuguese.

I'm French and the meaning is similar to what OP described in French "European".
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