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Re: macOS Tahoe windows have different corner radiuses

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Post by Synaesthesia »

traeregan wrote: post #161
Synaesthesia wrote: post #151

Today when cropping an image in Preview.app on Tahoe I ran into an issue where you can't use the bottom of the crop selection rectangle because the rounded corner of the window blocks it.

Pinch (or CMD + minus) zoom out slightly as a workaround.

Yeah I came right. Just a minor annoyance.

I'm one of the people who actually mostly likes Tahoe. Funny to see how new versions of MacOS always get piled on, in such a groupthink manner.

For me personally, once in used to the new UI, going back seems crude.

Re: macOS Tahoe windows have different corner radiuses

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Post by marxisttemp »

greenchair wrote: post #105
bschwindHN wrote: post #92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why are you shilling so hard for these features?

their username..

Yes, nothing says Marxism like shilling for the most valuable corporation in history. That's definitely the reason why I'm talking about cool new features in Tahoe.

Re: macOS Tahoe windows have different corner radiuses

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Post by marxisttemp »

nnwright wrote: post #113
marxisttemp wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What is godawful about it? Tahoe is great. Spotlight shortcuts, LLM actions. “Design is how it works.”

> What is godawful about it? I'm specifically commenting on their UX decisions, and in that respect literally everything. Tahoe, like every major upgrade, is iterative. Very few things that bowl a person over. Somethings are good, some things are "meh". But Liquid Glass is an abomination.

"Literally everything" Can you give some examples? "Inconsistent corner radius" isn't UX, it's UI. It affects nothing about the experience.

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Post by RattlesnakeJake »

dmd wrote: post #131
hulitu wrote: post #88

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> i disagree about that one. Why ? I'm sick of square windows. I want disc windows. And instead of scrolling them, i want to rotate them. /s Fixing bugs is hard. Better focus on the aesthetics.

I've got great news for you! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shape_extension

Ooh - did this carry forward into Wayland?

Re: macOS Tahoe windows have different corner radiuses

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Post by iainmerrick »

lapcat wrote: post #153
iainmerrick wrote: post #93

I dislike Tahoe too, but this particular thing is not new. I just did an image search for "classic macos" and one of the first hits was from https://www.versionmuseum.com/history-of/classic-mac-os . Look at those System 1 screenshots, from 42(!) years ago -- round corners on Puzzle and Calculator, square corners on Note Pad and Control Panel! No consistency at all, isn't it infuriating?

> this particular thing is not new. Article author here. I think the quoted claim is somewhat misleading. There are at least two different ways to interpret a UI feature as "not new": 1) The feature has been in the operating system all along. 2) Something analogous existed 40 years ago and then disappeared long ago. You're referring to 2, not 1. The only reason I chose Calculator app for my screenshot is that its win…

Thanks for the thoughtful and detailed response!

You're right, what I had in mind was 2, although a bit more general; I think there have been similar kinds of inconsistency in the Mac UI since the beginning, in various forms, almost always intentional.

So I think it would be wrong simply to say "the UI has gone a cliff, they've just thrown away their own HMI guidelines." You can certainly dislike what they've done (and I do dislike it!) but they at least have a somewhat logical goal in mind -- in this case, making the corners neatly fit various different kinds of window content.

Having said all that, there are also some real bugs and unintentional glitches, like scroll bars and other widgets not fitting correctly. I'd agree that seems to be happening more often in recent years, so their quality control has gone downhill.

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Post by dmd »

RattlesnakeJake wrote: post #174
dmd wrote: post #131

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've got great news for you! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shape_extension

Ooh - did this carry forward into Wayland?

Kinda-not-really? Wayland has wl_region objects and wl_surface_set_input_region but wl_region only has axis-aligned rectangles. you'd end up approximating the circle (or whatever shape) as a union of horizontal rect slices, rather than a pixmap. you can't just hand over a pixmap mask, you have to decompose the shape into rects yourself.

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Post by gnarlouse »

A few weeks ago I was thinking about starting https://theghostofsteve.com, where users can come and post their experiences about about Apple devices in 2026. Users would like/dislike with "its genius" or "its shit".

The assumption being that the majority of reactions would be "its shit."

Re: macOS Tahoe windows have different corner radiuses

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Post by gnarlouse »

On iOS, there are four little white corners beneath my keyboard when im typing on HN. Because HW & SW didnt coordinate on the size of the keyboard rounding vs the new iPhone 17.

Just so, so sloppy. I'm supposed to trust a multi trillion dollar company with my privacy?

Re: macOS Tahoe windows have different corner radiuses

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Post by zombot »

nnwright wrote: post #36

Mac OS's UX design has been in free fall the last 5-10 years (ever since the "iOS-ify everything" zeitgeist took root). Sincerely hope that they one day revert back, because the current UX is just godawful for any usecase I can imagine.

They just might do that, and sell it as revolutionary progress.

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Post by robertoandred »

steve1977 wrote: post #163
ajkjk wrote: post #77

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It's the lack of attention to detail, from a company who once was famous for its attention to detail. And it seems they're lacking in many corners (scnr...)

It’s actually the opposite. The corner radii are defined by the window type and the concentricity of its elements.

People who lack attention to detail just think things are randomly different.

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