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Lenovo’s new ThinkPads score 10/10 for repairability

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Re: Lenovo’s new ThinkPads score 10/10 for repairability

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Post by hulitu »

nirava wrote: post #169
huddert wrote: post #143

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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Even 50hz is fine. I'd go so far as to say, barring any medical or sensitivity issue, if any person prioritizes a 120hz screen they are a victim to habit or marketing. It adds zero value to the experience, and you're just looking for things to be annoyed by / brag about. Modern displays are already cutting edge. They have improved in every way that's meaningful in the last 35 years. Refresh rate is just not meaningfu…

> Refresh rate is just not meaningful enough.

Until the bloody compositor updates the screen based on it or worse based on half of it.

Re: Lenovo’s new ThinkPads score 10/10 for repairability

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Post by tstenner »

post-it wrote: post #131
deathanatos wrote: post #98

They've also become eye-wateringly expensive. I represent pricing in $/warranty year. (If you want me to believe the product is worth more, stand by it in the form of a warranty. But if a company isn't going to put their warranty where their mouth is, well.) Lenovo used to warrant their product; my previous Thinkpad, which came with a then-pathetic (Thinkpads used to be four year warranties!) 3 year warranty, for ~$1…

Re: the power brick, do these things not charge off USB C? Insane if not.

The "small ones" do. The larger P models require a beefy 220W proprietary power supply.

Re: Lenovo’s new ThinkPads score 10/10 for repairability

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Post by SR2Z »

huddert wrote: post #143
tombert wrote: post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've never had an issue with 60hz. 30hz is unusable but 60hz has always been good enough for me; the Sega Genesis and SNES had 60hz and that's always been good enough for me.

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> Is there any other area where you would tolerate 35 year-old performance as "good enough"?

Yeah. Speakers, printers, lightbulbs, garage doors, etc., etc.

I can tell the difference between 60 Hz and higher rates, but I think that most people could not care less. You don't buy a Thinkpad to game on, the most intense workout the display is liable to get is scrolling down a page.

Re: Lenovo’s new ThinkPads score 10/10 for repairability

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Post by pixelmelt »

SV_BubbleTime wrote: post #141
kiddico wrote: post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm rocking a framework 13" intel 12th gen still and I love it. The only issue I had was being part of the few that got a batch of bad hinges. I didn't know there was a replacement program I could have used and just replaced them myself with the heavier hinge option. At this point I have every expansion port thing they offer and keep them in my bag. My laptop can have any I/O I want :) pretty cool.

Hmm, framework 13 and Linux… loves nothing more than to drain while off. I’m getting really annoyed by that

They have a support article on how to fix this!

Re: Lenovo’s new ThinkPads score 10/10 for repairability

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Post by leethargo »

huddert wrote: post #160
mushufasa wrote: post #29

This commitment by Lenovo must have been driven by customer demand -- in this case, the IT departments. I wonder how much of that demand may be attributed to questions about comparisons to Framework. Even if Framework is not mainstream, it has mindshare among the IT-crowd.

Framework is a great concept but they will die due to poor execution. If I hadn't already recently bought a Framework (and knew what I do now about them) I would've held out for one of these new Lenovos. I don't think Framework can compete if one of the established players joins the game.

Could you share some of "what you now know bout them"?

Was there some issue in customer support, or getting spare parts?

Is it about the new products that have since come out?

I'm also using a Framework notebook for the past two years and have been quite happy, but nothing needed replacement so far...

Re: Lenovo’s new ThinkPads score 10/10 for repairability

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Post by thenthenthen »

trinsic2 wrote: post #167
alabhyajindal wrote: post #4

Nice very cool. Unfortunately, the blog post looks like it's been generated by an LLM. > Going from a high score to the highest score isn’t usually about making minor tweaks. It requires fighting for every small, boring, consequential decision—the ones that determine whether a repair isn’t merely possible or practical, but within easy reach.

Ifixit, the same guys that gave the new Macmini 8/10 for repairability? They're totally biased to mainstream products IMHO especially Mac products. Then they give this Laptop a 10/10. One look at the internals and without a shadow of doubt it's not as as repairable friendly as framework laptop. Not sure what they are smoking. Yea someone else said it but bios updates on certain models can be hit or miss. But definite…

> Full disclosure: iFixit has an ongoing business relationship with Lenovo, and we are hopelessly biased in favor of repairable products.

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Re: Lenovo’s new ThinkPads score 10/10 for repairability

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Post by pjmlp »

And this is why I keep using Thinkpads with Windows/Linux since 2006, even with the swith to Lenovo, I don't care about thin bezels.

The models I owned, or were work assigned, upgrading mem/disk was never an issue, the device could live until it died of motherboard issues, or similar non-upgradable components.

Re: Lenovo’s new ThinkPads score 10/10 for repairability

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Post by naruhodo »

imglorp wrote: post #127
iso-logi wrote: post #118

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The bigger threat is the US, which injects spyware capabilities into every AMD, Intel and Nvidia die.

Maybe? The Lenovo Superfish thing was pretty bad. Anyway, every die? citation needed. Also. If true, what's the alternative?

"Every"? Maybe not, but... from a brief web search, IME should give you the heebie-jeebies due to it's network access.[1]

AMD's PSP (now ASP) seems to be more of a local attack surface[2] that has its fair share of vulnerabilities.[3]

[1] https://www.franksworld.com/2025/09/18/the-intel-backdoor-no...

[2] https://www.digit.in/features/laptops/intel-me-and-amd-psp-t...

[3] https://www.amd.com/en/resources/product-security/bulletin/a...

Re: Lenovo’s new ThinkPads score 10/10 for repairability

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Post by TiredOfLife »

nine_k wrote: post #71
mushufasa wrote: post #29

This commitment by Lenovo must have been driven by customer demand -- in this case, the IT departments. I wonder how much of that demand may be attributed to questions about comparisons to Framework. Even if Framework is not mainstream, it has mindshare among the IT-crowd.

The replaceable Thunderbolt sockets connecting to an internal Thunderbolt socket are a direct... homage to Framework.

Framework just made dongles be a part of case. Inside it's still soldered type-c connectors.
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