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Post by LAC-Tech »

hereme888 wrote: post #149

For the prospects of the freedom and subsequent prosperity of the oppressed Iranian people, peace in the Middle East, and safety of the commercial shipping routes, I fully approve my tax dollars to the matter.

That is an unrealistic goal.

Likely the actual goal, as dictated by Israel and the Jewish Lobby in the US, is to destabilise Iran long term in a sort of Syria situation, so they cannot threaten Israeli hegemony in the region.

Remember even a non Islamic Iran is still a threat to Israeli power if it remains unified and intact.

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Post by flyinglizard »

throwaw12 wrote: post #137
flyinglizard wrote: post #103

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The disruption in gas supply will be very short. Weeks, at most. The gulf states will be very happy to see the Islamic Republic gone, they are living in its shadow for a long time now. Now, Ukraine and Israel need very different kinds of support, and things like US withholding intelligence from Ukraine have nothing to do with Israel.

I wonder why Israel should get any support, do you support killing children and bombing schools? Ukraine, I understand, because it was attacked, but Israel, who was oppressing people for so many years with prisons full with Palestinian kids and teenagers long before Oct 7th, I really don't understand. Except, for Epstein reasons (blackmail), other than that, there is no reason US should support Israel, in any way

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Post by gravisultra »

mhb wrote: post #152
gravisultra wrote: post #119

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is a valid criticism. Whenever there is a push to improve life for US citizens, we are told that we do not have the funds. Yet, here we see an essentially unlimited budget to fight Israel's war of aggression against Iran, with zero benefit to US citizens. In fact, the costs (financial, moral and human) that we will pay for this excursion will be astronomically high.

If budgets are what interest you, maybe consider why Iran spent over $500B developing offensive nuclear weapons. Instead of peaceful pursuits or defenses against its supposed aggressor over 1,000 miles away.

Budgets using my money interest me. Do you have a source for that $500B claim?

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Post by mikepurvis »

bawolff wrote: post #52
adriand wrote: post #47

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> The US has protected global sea lanes for 80 years. But rather than protect global sea lanes, the US is bombing Iran. That’s not the same thing. The idea that the war isn’t costing money for personnel because those people would be doing something anyway makes no sense. They could be doing something else. In fact, they could be doing something that increases the wealth and wellbeing of the world, rather than destroy…

> But rather than protect global sea lanes, the US is bombing Iran. That’s not the same thing. Arguably the primary threat to modern sea lanes is Iran. Right now Iran is harrasing traffic. Previously the Houthis, generally considered an Iranian proxy, were harrasing traffic. Its all kind of the same war, this is just the end game.

The first gulf war was 1990. The US has been at war with various factions of the Middle East more or less continuously for thirty five years. The current president specifically campaigned on no new foreign wars and repeatedly tried to bully the Nobel committee into awarding him a peace prize before accepting a second hand one from another world leader and a sham one from FIFA of all things.

What makes anyone think that this latest attack is the "end game" vs just the latest expensive chapter?

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Post by hedora »

spaghetdefects wrote: post #114
bawolff wrote: post #46

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US has tons of interests in the region. This is just as much for america's benefit as it is for Israel's.

This is not in the US's interest at all. What do we get out of destabilizing the region? This is entirely for Israel.

This won't help Israelis.

It will help multiple industrial military complexes on both sides of the conflict.

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Post by mekdoonggi »

hereme888 wrote: post #149

For the prospects of the freedom and subsequent prosperity of the oppressed Iranian people, peace in the Middle East, and safety of the commercial shipping routes, I fully approve my tax dollars to the matter.

Would you still approve if the cost is 20x, the Iranian people are worse off, and the shipping routes and Middle East are dramatically less safe due to drones?

Because that is a realistic possibility.

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Post by kakacik »

jklinger410 wrote: post #155
throwaw12 wrote: post #87

This doesn't include generational damage in sentiment: * Europe is in trouble because they can't get gas from Russia, Qatar stopped supplying gas * Japan is in trouble because Middle East supplies its 75% of oil, which is blocked now * Ukraine is in dilemma, because US giving every support to Israel, but not to Ukraine * Qatar, Kuwait, UAE, Bahrain is asking questions, if US can't defend us and is moving all defensiv…

I think citizens in those countries recognize that allowing a repressive regime to exist simply for cheap oil costs is not necessarily a good solution, either.

Almost nobody thinks like that, what are we 5 year olds? Especially when most left leaning folks in western world has hard sympathies with hamas which are just left and right hand of the same regime (maybe not US left which is far from left elsewhere).

Did US population en masse lost sleep during past decades till now and some future due to sweatshops full of kids making their jeans or iphones or Christmas toys for their kids in highly undemocratic regimes?

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Post by jakeinspace »

Is this missing interceptors? My understanding is those probably dominate total costs at the moment, especially if you include the costs of allied Gulf State and Israeli interceptors. Thousands have been expended already on ballistic missiles, cruise missiles, and drones. Those range from hundred of thousands to multiple millions per shot.

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Post by throwaw12 »

flyinglizard wrote: post #172
throwaw12 wrote: post #137

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wonder why Israel should get any support, do you support killing children and bombing schools? Ukraine, I understand, because it was attacked, but Israel, who was oppressing people for so many years with prisons full with Palestinian kids and teenagers long before Oct 7th, I really don't understand. Except, for Epstein reasons (blackmail), other than that, there is no reason US should support Israel, in any way

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> supporting Israel right to exist, for me, is the right thing

1. Does US fight to support only right things?

2. Is Palestinian right to exist is the right thing as well?

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