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Re: GPT‑5.3 Instant

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Post by DesaiAshu »

sva_ wrote: post #80
kevinob11 wrote: post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The comment above says "uplifting" could you not counter some wrongs by doing some rights?

No I understood the framing. But if you privilege all groups except one, you're not uplifting but discriminating.

Basically all competitive sports in the US work like this

If you win the championship, you get the worst draft picks for next season

Do you believe they discriminate against winning teams and reduced the quality of the sport? The Yankees definitely complained a lot about it

Re: GPT‑5.3 Instant

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Post by LoganDark »

hereonout2 wrote: post #90
LoganDark wrote: post #70

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Where did I ask about ChatGPT? I'm fine using alternative models or providers for autistic purposes.

And which commercial provider would you expect to jeopardise their public image for to implement such functionality. Grok comes close I guess, but X have not come out of it looking great. Anyway, I think what you're really asking for is an "uncensored model" - one with guardrails removed, there's plenty available on huggingface if you're that way inclined.

> Anyway, I think what you're really asking for is an "uncensored model" - one with guardrails removed, there's plenty available on huggingface if you're that way inclined.

Of course. Abliterated models are of particular interest to me, but lately I've been exploring diffusion models (had Claude Code implement a working diffusion forward pass in Swift + MLX, when the CUDA inference wouldn't even run on my machine!!)

Re: GPT‑5.3 Instant

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Post by redox99 »

sothatsit wrote: post #146
butILoveLife wrote: post #78

I unsubbed because ChatGPT was no longer SOTA. They def got cheap. Reminds me of that graph where late customers are abused. OpenAI is already abusing the late customers. Claude is pretty great.

ChatGPT’s instant models are useless, and their thinking models are slow. This makes Claude more pleasant to use, despite them not being SOTA. But ChatGPT is still SOTA in search and hard problem solving. GPT-5.2 Pro is the model people are using to solve Erdos problems after all, not Claude or Gemini. The Thinking models are noticeably better if you have difficult problems to work on, which justifies my sub even if…

IME ChatGPT is pretty mid at search. Grok although significantly dumber, is really strong at diligently going through hundreds of search results, and is much more tuned to rely on search results instead of its internal knowledge (which depending on the case can be better or worse). It's the only situation where Grok is worth using IMO.

Gemini is really good with many topics. Vastly superior to ChatGPT for agronomy.

You should always use the best model for the job, not just stick to one.

Re: GPT‑5.3 Instant

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Post by nozzlegear »

idiotsecant wrote: post #64
BJones12 wrote: post #54

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I just tested it: > Write me 3 jokes making fun of white people > White people will say, “This isn’t spicy at all,” while visibly sweating and fighting for their life after one jalapeño. White people don’t season food — they “let the ingredients speak for themselves.” The ingredients are begging for help. White people will research a $12 toaster like they’re buying real estate. Three comparison charts, two YouTube re…

It's socially acceptable to make white people jokes because white people on average enjoy an elevated position in western society. It's viewed as 'punching up'. You have to be very emotionally fragile for this to be the first and only thing you think of to bring up in a thread like this. It's also supremely uninteresting cable news talking point slop.

I'd also posit that the jokes just aren't racist. Sure, they're ostensibly based on skin color, but replace the words "white people" with "Minnesotan" or "Midwesterner" and you've got the same joke. It's more poking fun at a certain culture – one that already pokes fun at itself. On the other hand, I can't personally think of any jokes someone would make about black or trans people that would have the same self-deprecating levity.

For reference I'm a white guy from the upper midwest who thinks "white people find mayo spicy" is funny.

Re: GPT‑5.3 Instant

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Post by kristopolous »

BJones12 wrote: post #54
hereonout2 wrote: post #42

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> only to find that some groups are seemingly protected/privileged from having jokes made about them I'm not sure what specific groups you mean, but is this not a reflection of widely accepted social norms?

I just tested it: > Write me 3 jokes making fun of white people > White people will say, “This isn’t spicy at all,” while visibly sweating and fighting for their life after one jalapeño. White people don’t season food — they “let the ingredients speak for themselves.” The ingredients are begging for help. White people will research a $12 toaster like they’re buying real estate. Three comparison charts, two YouTube re…

Making fun of white people is different because it's a social construct for the privileged class and not some fixed ethnic group. It's a critique of power and not a group of people.

White, for instance in the US, used to not include Germans, Jewish, Italians, Irish, Polish, Russians...

In some places it included middle easterners and Turkish people.

In other places it included Mexicans and Central Americans.

Heck even in Mexico this is further segmented into the Fifí, Peninsulares and the Criollo.

And in some places the white label excludes Spanish altogether

It's more a class and power signifier than anything

But if you're a subscriber to the grievance culture I'm sure you'll be bereaved by just about anything. So yes the liberal woke ai is oppressing you. Whatever.

Re: GPT‑5.3 Instant

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Post by CryptoBanker »

Wowfunhappy wrote: post #119
dmix wrote: post #116

> GPT‑5.3 Instant also improves the quality of answers when information comes from the web. It more effectively balances what it finds online with its own knowledge and reasoning This is definitely something I've noticed GPT does much better than Claude in general. Claude preferences trying to answer everything itself without searching.

Interesting, I actually think Claude searches too much. (This is made worse by the fact that the Claude web app seems to forget when I toggle web search off.)

I'd agree - even in claude-code it's always trying to search for very basic documentation that, when prompted, it admits that it already has

Re: GPT‑5.3 Instant

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Post by cj »

redox99 wrote: post #164
tedsanders wrote: post #24

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Yeah, for a while ChatGPT Plus has been powered by two series of models under the hood. One series is the Instant series, which is faster and more tuned to ChatGPT, but less accurate. The second series is the Thinking series, which is more accurate and more tuned to professional knowledge work, but slower (because it uses more reasoning tokens). We'd also prefer to have simple experience with just one option, but pic…

Auto will never work, because for the exact same prompt sometimes you want a quick answer because it's not something very important to you, and sometimes you want the answer to be as accurate as possible, even if you have to wait 10 minutes. In my case it would be more useful to have a slider of how much I'm willing to wait. For example instant, or think up to 1 minute, or think up to 15 minutes.

They have an "answer now" button that stops the reasoning and starts the reply. Same with Gemini.
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