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Re: OpenClaw surpasses React to become the most-starred software project on GitHub

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Post by big-and-small »

kandros wrote: post #73
SunshineTheCat wrote: post #61

I keep reading folks saying OpenClaw has completely changed their life while posting a picture of 58 mac minis on their desk. But every single use case I've read so far could be done with a pretty affordable SaaS product, Zapier, Automator (app on a mac that's existed for over a decade), or something simple you could make yourself. It also feels like people are automating things that don't really need to be automated…

Patterns i keep seeing: Once you get the dopamine hit of having an ai assistant do something in the real world it becomes an hammer you want to use on everything Instead of being a problem solver you start to become a problem hunter, and you invent them in order to solve them

> Instead of being a problem solver you start to become a problem hunter, and you invent them in order to solve them

Generic problem of any Linux newbie. You get good at solving problems and it's so enjoyable so you end up creating more of them.

Re: OpenClaw surpasses React to become the most-starred software project on GitHub

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Post by WD-42 »

simonw wrote: post #115
SunshineTheCat wrote: post #61

I keep reading folks saying OpenClaw has completely changed their life while posting a picture of 58 mac minis on their desk. But every single use case I've read so far could be done with a pretty affordable SaaS product, Zapier, Automator (app on a mac that's existed for over a decade), or something simple you could make yourself. It also feels like people are automating things that don't really need to be automated…

How much do you automate things in your life using Zapier and Automator? I know about those tools, and I'm always in the mood for automating thing... and yet I don't use them. I'm not yet running a Claw because of the prompt injection / lethal trifecta risks, but I absolutely understand the appeal. Reducing friction to automating stuff from "figure out Automator again" to "message your bot" is a material difference.

How much do you automate anything in your life at all? Seems like most daily drudgery comes from physical tasks. Feed the dog. Take out the trash. Personally I can’t think of anything digital that could be automated that isn’t already. I wouldn’t be surprised if this the case for most people, with the exception of marketers and spammers which we are seeing a ton of adoption from with these tools.

Re: OpenClaw surpasses React to become the most-starred software project on GitHub

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Post by RHSeeger »

joshmn wrote: post #129
SunshineTheCat wrote: post #61

I keep reading folks saying OpenClaw has completely changed their life while posting a picture of 58 mac minis on their desk. But every single use case I've read so far could be done with a pretty affordable SaaS product, Zapier, Automator (app on a mac that's existed for over a decade), or something simple you could make yourself. It also feels like people are automating things that don't really need to be automated…

> I keep reading folks saying OpenClaw has completely changed their life while posting a picture of 58 mac minis on their desk. I was having a conversation with someone about OpenClaw, and they proposed this idea of OpenClaw being used for inventory tracking at the retail-level. I let them continue. They said it'd be the best option for tracking when purchases are made and what SKUs are sold at what time of day. They…

> I didn't bother mentioning how long this problem had been solved.

The ironic thing here is that the person could go to ChatGPT (or whatever), describe the problem they're looking to solve, and ask it to find them the various ways it has been solved reliably (with links to the sources to confirm the information). And even provide some details on when each solution works best and why.

Because THAT is a great use for AI.

Re: OpenClaw surpasses React to become the most-starred software project on GitHub

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Post by Gooblebrai »

SunshineTheCat wrote: post #61

I keep reading folks saying OpenClaw has completely changed their life while posting a picture of 58 mac minis on their desk. But every single use case I've read so far could be done with a pretty affordable SaaS product, Zapier, Automator (app on a mac that's existed for over a decade), or something simple you could make yourself. It also feels like people are automating things that don't really need to be automated…

This comment could be on its way to http://hackernews.love/

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Post by AdamN »

toinewx wrote: post #95

I tried it today for the first time. The onboarding is okay. I picked Whatsapp but it ended up using my own account! So it's absolutely too dangerous. We are supposed to create a separate account but with which phone number? I only have one. So I picked Telegram instead, added it to a group chat, but it was a slog to set the authorizations. In the end I don't trust it to read my mails for security reasons so I uninst…

MacOS supports multiple users - I would absolutely sandbox any agent like this and only slowly give it permissions (and never to anything that's critical without compensating controls).

Re: OpenClaw surpasses React to become the most-starred software project on GitHub

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Post by ramoz »

OpenClaw is not going away anytime soon. And I don’t think it can be platformed behind web UIs. OpenAI owns an OS with this one.

I avoided the hype at first; however, it has become extremely efficient for emails and notes, and I can see how this can extend to any sort of digital workflow. The convenience of chatting with this thing, no matter where I'm at, is a key marker.

Re: OpenClaw surpasses React to become the most-starred software project on GitHub

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SunshineTheCat wrote: post #61

I keep reading folks saying OpenClaw has completely changed their life while posting a picture of 58 mac minis on their desk. But every single use case I've read so far could be done with a pretty affordable SaaS product, Zapier, Automator (app on a mac that's existed for over a decade), or something simple you could make yourself. It also feels like people are automating things that don't really need to be automated…

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Re: OpenClaw surpasses React to become the most-starred software project on GitHub

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Post by rcxdude »

siva7 wrote: post #151
SunshineTheCat wrote: post #61

I keep reading folks saying OpenClaw has completely changed their life while posting a picture of 58 mac minis on their desk. But every single use case I've read so far could be done with a pretty affordable SaaS product, Zapier, Automator (app on a mac that's existed for over a decade), or something simple you could make yourself. It also feels like people are automating things that don't really need to be automated…

The old dudes had something they called the "Eternal September" like when ISPs began providing free internet access and discussion culture declined after forever. I starred this thread here as the start of the "Eternal March" when the open internet died forever.

It was more that regular people started joining the internet through just paying for ISPs. Before that, most of the people just joining the internet were students, so there would be a wave of newbies at the start of the university year every September and they would get acclimatised to the culture there during the year. But once it was year-round and many more people it swamped things and the culture shifted or closed itself off.

Re: OpenClaw surpasses React to become the most-starred software project on GitHub

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Post by ramesh31 »

Stars have become completely meaningless in the last year or two. It's a shame, because having a few thousand Github stars used to be a really big deal, and was a quality marker for libraries that had reached a level of maturity and production grade. Now it's just social media bot driven nonsense.

Re: OpenClaw surpasses React to become the most-starred software project on GitHub

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Post by Xirdus »

cluckindan wrote: post #127
huijzer wrote: post #110

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Isn’t that a general engineering problem?

Engineering is the process of planning and implementing the simplest thing that works within given constraints. There is no planning, implementing, or constraint here.

If engineering is about implementing the simplest thing then why do we call implementing the most complicated thing overengineering and not underengineering?
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