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The whole thing was a scam

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Post by esafak »

111111101101 wrote: post #150
esafak wrote: post #122

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As they first were in Google. Were you around then?

> As they first were in Google. So because you saw it once in one company, it will happen in every company? By that logic, wont Claude eventually get ads too, even though they are saying that they wont? Even now, Google ads wrap around the content, they don't mess with the search results. > Were you around then? Yes. I was around for AltaVista, WebCrawler, and Lycos too. None of those were LLMs.

I think it is a good bet that Claude will eventually get ads too, if they don't drop the consumer segment. Ads are free money; most don't care.

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Post by burnt-resistor »

ltpajh wrote: post #26

To summarize all nepotism indicators posted here by various people: - The Kushner family has invested in OpenAI. - OpenAI uses Oracle cloud. Ellison is close to Trump. - Sheikh Tahnoon bin Zayed Al Nahyan (the “spy sheikh") has invested $500 million in World Liberty and is also invested in OpenAI. - Altman is a protege of Thiel, whose Palantir integrates the external AI at the Pentagon. - The scam occurs right before…

And JD Vance is Thiel's boy.

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Post by conception »

losvedir wrote: post #124

It's interesting this thread is all about how the deal is basically the same therefore corruption. And the other thread is all about how it's subtly different therefore OpenAI has no model red lines. I'd love to hear if Anthropic actually would accept this deal, if offered.

It’s corruption and a different deal.

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Post by tombert »

ikr678 wrote: post #146
tombert wrote: post #95

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I've said it a million times, but I'll repeat it. There are a lot of conspiracy nuts like Alex Jones, and the amusing thing to me is that there is a conspiracy of elites who are exerting large amounts of unelected control of the government, and who are actively working to keep you down to enrich themselves, and it's not even a secret. We call these people "billionaires", and at this point they don't even bother hidin…

The only war is class war, but those at the top spend a lot of money creating new culture wars instead to keep us busy.

"With, without, And who'll deny it's what the fighting's all about?"

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Post by teiferer »

LoganDark wrote: post #151
spiderfarmer wrote: post #145

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I’m one of those criticasters and I’m getting downvoted constantly. I don’t care about the downvotes. I do care about western countries slipping into fascism just because people are so proud to admit they voted for a stupid clown.

I think a lot of voters didn't know what they were getting the country into, or just were too ignorant or misinformed to notice, in voting for the Leopards Eating People's Faces Party. There are actual fascists too, of course. I'm just disappointed that they won; the damage has already been immeasurable, and to some extent irreversible, and we're not even halfway into the term.

> I think a lot of voters didn't know what they were getting the country into

You were not around for the 2017-2021 preview? Thisis the second term! Everybody cpuld see exactly what the country would be getting into!

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Post by whatthesmack »

erelong wrote: post #62

sounds likely and plausible but also like an "unproven conspiracy theory"

I can't believe I had to scroll this far down to see something slightly critical of this conspiratorial post and collection of HN comments.

Everyone here needs to take a deep breath, step back, and remind yourselves that everything you're claiming is unproven and is a conspiracy theory. The language of the contracts is not publicly available

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Post by Spivak »

kelnos wrote: post #155
gyomu wrote: post #127

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> The mid-terms may be our final chance to save our nation. I don’t understand anyone who believes that. What do you expect to happen during the midterms exactly that would bring the US back on some mythical track of rule of law, with a just and fair government? The corruption runs so deep, the institutions have been gutted, there are no good people in charge left. This ride is going to last a while, and the way out…

Yeah, that's the thing. Even in the most optimistic of dreams, Democrats won't end up with supermajorities in both the House and Senate. They can pass whatever bills they want, but Trump doesn't have to sign them. Sure, there will be things that Trump wants to do that he might actually need Congress for, and maybe there's room to make deals to advance some kind of progressive/liberal policies here and there. But I do…

I mean first step of triage is stop the bleeding. Obviously I want more but making this admin a lame duck for the last two years would be a win.

Honestly making them veto a bunch of popular to regular people legislation would probably do wonders for the "they're both the same" crowd.

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Post by heavyset_go »

yencabulator wrote: post #132
Nevermark wrote: post #90

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Simply spending money to get someone you like elected isn’t bribery. To the degree great inequality leads to this being decisive in elections, it is a corrupting influence, but the term for it is still not “bribery”. But when a presidential candidate tells oil companies they should donate because he is going to help them, that’s solid bribery. When companies pay to “settle” ridiculous accusations, or “donate” to a pr…

In actual functioning democracies political donations are capped severely. Say, a single donor can contribute a maximum of €6,000 per parliament candidate per election. Yes, that's a real limit.

Citizens United assured that will never happen in the US, and everything critics said about it 16 years ago has come into fruition and more.

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Post by ChrisMarshallNY »

codechicago277 wrote: post #99
isoprophlex wrote: post #85

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Not a week goes by without me thinking "what would HST have made of THIS fresh bullshit, if he were alive today"

The only human to authorize a nuclear attack…

Hunter Thompson?

Not saying he wouldn't have banged on the button, for all he was worth, but no one in their right (or even severely sick) mind would ever let him near it.

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