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I am directing the Department of War to designate Anthropic a supply-chain risk

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Re: I am directing the Department of War to designate Anthropic a supply-chain risk

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bubblewand wrote: post #164
seliopou wrote: post #117

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don’t see a contradiction here. If control is out of the hands of decision makers, that’s a supply chain risk . Were it not for that, the service is seen as critical to national security. I dunno, safeguard seems like a weasel word here. It’s just reserving control to one party over another. It’s understandable why the DoD(W) wouldn’t like that.

I'm pretty sure you (and others) are trying to apply some kind of guess at the "supply chain risk" designation, but it means something specific. Here's the term defined in an official context: https://www.acquisition.gov/dfars/252.239-7018-supply-chain-... .

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Re: I am directing the Department of War to designate Anthropic a supply-chain risk

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Post by small_model »

chasd00 wrote: post #123
jmward01 wrote: post #102

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Defense contracting makes you rich and lazy. In the long run it is rare to see companies get sucked into defense contracting and stay relevant/on the cutting edge. We look at fighters and warships and think WOW! But the reality is that they are pretty far behind where they would actually be if there was a civilian purpose to them that mattered.

It’s not the defense contracts to Anthropic that hurt. It’s not being able to do business with anyone who does business with the DOD that hurts.

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Re: I am directing the Department of War to designate Anthropic a supply-chain risk

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Post by skeeter2020 »

bostik wrote: post #129
lukewrites wrote: post #6

I admire Anthropic for sticking to their principles, even if it affects the bottom line. That’s the kind of company you want to work for.

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why does it need to be a completely different, trained model? AWS doesn't provide unique technologies in their goverment cloud, beyond isolation and firewalled access; Anthropic can do the same thing. Probably need to cough up enough to register a new domain name!

Re: I am directing the Department of War to designate Anthropic a supply-chain risk

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Post by jonplackett »

irthomasthomas wrote: post #151
NickAndresen wrote: post #15

"They have threatened to remove us from their systems if we maintain these safeguards; they have also threatened to designate us a “supply chain risk”—a label reserved for US adversaries, never before applied to an American company—and to invoke the Defense Production Act to force the safeguards’ removal. These latter two threats are inherently contradictory: one labels us a security risk; the other labels Claude as…

That's a shame. They might at least continue to work together to spy on foreigners. I don't understand the fuss anyway, what do claude models do that gpt and gemini can't?

For these people, it is just about control.

Re: I am directing the Department of War to designate Anthropic a supply-chain risk

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Post by infecto »

progbits wrote: post #136
easton wrote: post #24

> Effective immediately, no contractor, supplier, or partner that does business with the United States military may conduct any commercial activity with Anthropic. I’m sure the lawyers just got paged, but does this mean the hyperscalers (AWS, GCP) can’t resell Claude anymore to US companies that aren’t doing business with the DoD? That’s rough.

(edit: I'm most likely wrong) You got it backwards, can't use claude if you ARE doing business with DoD. Presumably AWS/GCP don't care, its up to the end customer to comply. Not like GCP KYC asks if you work with DoD.

Agree with other reply. I don’t think it’s backward. No they said any commercial activity. Does not feel like a stretch that commercial activity includes reselling api usage.

Re: I am directing the Department of War to designate Anthropic a supply-chain risk

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Post by dminik »

AI proponents have been very vocal about AI safety being meaningless. But nobody could have expected that the end of the world would have come because Trump puts Grok in charge of the US nuclear arsenal. We truly live in the dumbest timeline.

Re: I am directing the Department of War to designate Anthropic a supply-chain risk

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Post by sco1 »

bostik wrote: post #129
lukewrites wrote: post #6

I admire Anthropic for sticking to their principles, even if it affects the bottom line. That’s the kind of company you want to work for.

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There is already genai.mil: https://www.war.gov/News/Releases/Release/Article/4354916/
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