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Every company building your AI assistant is now an ad company

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Post by whattheheckheck »

schrodinger wrote: post #150
encom wrote: post #66

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>That's why we have technology in the first place, to improve our lives, right? No, we have technology to show you more and more ads, sell you more and more useless crap, and push your opinions on Important Matters toward the state approved ones. Of course indoor plumbing, farming, metallurgy and printing were great hits, but technology has had a bit of a dry spell lately. If "An always-on AI that listens to your hou…

I don't think that ads _have_ to be evil. When I look at Google, I see a company that is fully funded by ads, but provides me a number of highly useful services that haven't really degraded over 20 years. Yes, the number of search results that are ads grew over the years, but by and large, Google search and Gmail are tools that serve rather benevolently. And if you're about to disagree with this ask yourself if you'r…

Yeah the question is what is the optimal feedback loop between producers and consumers and what are the appropriate communivation channels that respect human rights that we can all agree on

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Post by FeteCommuniste »

rrr_oh_man wrote: post #145
FeteCommuniste wrote: post #102

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It would be really great if Google had a setting that allowed you to exclude certain domains from all searches by default. Like you, a YouTube video (or a Facebook page, or an Instagram or Twitter post) is basically never what I am looking for.

`-site:youtube.com`?

Yeah but I'd like a way to attach a "blacklist" to my account so that my searches excluded all of the unwanted sites by default rather than having to add negation operators to every search.

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Post by JustinLeung »

dotancohen wrote: post #62
com2kid wrote: post #26

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> Are you okay with private and intimate conversations and moments (including of underage family members) being saved for replaying later? Typically not how these things work. Speech is processed using ASR (automatic speech recognition), and then ran through a prompt that checks for appropriate tools calls. I've been meaning to basically make this myself but I've been too lazy lately to bother. I actually want a lot…

> Having idle thoughts in the car of things you need to do and being able to just say them out loud and know important topics won't be forgotten about. I push a button on the phone and then say them. I've been doing this for over twenty years. The problem is ever getting back to those voice notes.

Absolutely. There fundamentally are two sides of this problem. Capturing the intent and making it actionable.

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Post by insane_dreamer »

While I applaud the efforts to make AI inference local-only, I also fail to see the need for AI inference that relies on collecting continuous information. Yes, implicit activation (i.e., keyword) results in a less effective model that doesn't automatically order eggs for me. But I don't really need the more effective model (shopping list post-it on the fridge works just fine, actually). It's a solution looking for a problem.

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Post by com2kid »

ajuhasz wrote: post #28
com2kid wrote: post #27

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Heyas! Glad to see someone making this I wrote a blog post about this exact product space a year ago. https://meanderingthoughts.hashnode.dev/lets-do-some-actual-... I hope y'all succeed! The potential use cases for locally hosted AI dwarf what can be done with SaSS. I hope the memory crisis isn't hurting you too badly.

Yes! We see a lot of the same things that really should have been solved by the first wave of assistants. Your _Around The House_ reads similar to a lot of our goals though we would love the system to be much more pro-active than current assistants. Feel free to reach out. Would love to swap notes and send you a prototype. > I hope the memory crisis isn't hurting you too badly. Oh man, we've had to really track our b…

I fired off an email!

Best of luck with the product launch, I've worked in consumer HW before, it is brutal!

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Post by sixtyj »

ajuhasz wrote: post #24
zmmmmm wrote: post #20

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The fundamental problem with a lot of this is that the legal system is absolute: if information exists, it is accessible. If the courts order it, nothing you can do can prevent the information being handed over, even if that means a raid of your physical premises. Unless you encrypt it in a manner resistant to any way you can be compelled to decrypt it, the only way to have privacy is for information not to exist in…

Agreed, while we've tried to think through this and build in protections we can't pretend that there is a magical perfect solution. We do have strong conviction that doing this inside the walls of your home is much safer than doing it within any companies datacenter (I accept that some just don't want this to exist period and we won't be able to appease them). Some of our decisions in this direction: - Minimize how l…

Device should have been accompanied with a lot of examples so people are really aware how stored data could be misused. Alexa or any other similar device - their users are technically illiterate. Do you remember leaks of movie stars’ iPhone images? Multiply it by thousands… Court order, burglars, hackers - all bad actors imaginable…

For you, as producer, those situations can be a nightmare if not well described in operating conditions. And devices should not be pre-setup (don’t be “Google-evil”, as they track everything if you don’t set it up different; and it is always hidden deep in the third level menu under 2-steps verification)

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