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Tesla has to pay historic $243M judgement over Autopilot crash, judge says

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Re: Tesla has to pay historic $243M judgement over Autopilot crash, judge says

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The trend is to include as much as the aircraft’s capabilities in the checkride now. For an IFR checkride, if you do it in an aircraft equipped with autopilot, at least one approach will have to be flown with the autopilot. Not sure if that’s made it’s way to the PPL checkride (or been codified) but it’s inevitable.

> if you do it in an aircraft equipped with autopilot There's also a (stupid, imo) tendency for APs to conveniently become inop right before a checkride. It's not accurate to say that all pilots, or even all pilots that have taken an IR ride, are "pilots who understand the capabilities and limits of aviation autopilot technology."

For the PPL specifically, the focus is on basic airmanship in VFR conditions, and that means eyeballing the six pack (or digital equivalent) and looking out of the window. The instrument flying expectations is primarily for emergencies and preparation for future instrument rating.

But yes, I understand what you mean.

Re: Tesla has to pay historic $243M judgement over Autopilot crash, judge says

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No it wasn't. This was the trial judge deciding to not reduce it. $43 million in compensatory damages is unusually high for a wrongful death.

$43 millon does not seem spectacularly high compensation for killing someone at the age of 22.

"Seem high" and "is much higher than usual" are two very different things.

Your mother's life might be worth $100 billion+ to you, but that doesn't mean her accidental death will make you into Elon's neighbor.

Re: Tesla has to pay historic $243M judgement over Autopilot crash, judge says

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Sorry, 8x not 10x https://driveteslacanada.ca/news/tesla-releases-new-fsd-safe...

Also, you say “self driving software” but you’re linking to a Tesla press release. Do you think Tesla currently has the best self driving software? It seems to me that Waymo and Mercedes are way ahead, both of them putting their money where their mouth is insurance-wise, and using better tech. Yet neither Waymo nor Mercedes would claim their tech is anywhere near as good as a human.

They do. https://waymo.com/safety/impact/

"90% fewer serious injury crashes for Waymo vs humans"

I said "self-driving software" because I was trying to avoid eliciting a knee-jerk reaction from all you Elon haters.

Re: Tesla has to pay historic $243M judgement over Autopilot crash, judge says

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> self driving software is already ~10x safer than a human. This is, technically speaking, pure bullshit. You have no proof because none exists.

I strongly believe the data will support this claim , and strongly support your assertion that it is not yet documented. In general, if not necessarily data from a company guided by a narcissist man-baby.

It's wild to see how much people allow their dislike for Elon to impact their critical thinking skills. There aren't some mysterious or unknowable stats. They're being constantly collected and shared with regulators and the general public alike.

https://waymo.com/safety/impact/ https://www.tesla.com/fsd/safety

Re: Tesla has to pay historic $243M judgement over Autopilot crash, judge says

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well the other person in the comments said the guy literally held his accelerator to the floor the entire time. is that actually a reasonable standard, or are you preemptively out for blood because you would never let reality get in the way of a good agenda? ironic, given that you go out of your way to accuse others of this. methinks you doth protest too much?

The article says 'he dropped his phone and bent down to retrieve it'

and that’s somehow okay while you’re driving? i didn’t realize there was a “uhh but if you drop your phone it’s okay to cause a crash” clause in the statutes.

Re: Tesla has to pay historic $243M judgement over Autopilot crash, judge says

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The article says 'he dropped his phone and bent down to retrieve it'

and that’s somehow okay while you’re driving? i didn’t realize there was a “uhh but if you drop your phone it’s okay to cause a crash” clause in the statutes.

Of course not. I was simply reacting to the comments that he kept his accelerator on the gas pedal meaning he intended to beat/run the light.

Reaching down to grab your phone is stupid and clearly negligent but quite different than making the decision to intentionally run a light.

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