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Re: I love the work of the ArchWiki maintainers

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Post by doubled112 »

ofalkaed wrote: post #68
VorpalWay wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Could be. I don't remember Arch being on my radar at that point though. But it wasn't long after I switched from Gentoo to Arch (and then Debian for a decade due to lack of stability before going back to Arch 7 years ago or so). A few years before the Xorg thing there was also the 2.4 to 2.6 kernel switchover. I think I maybe was using Slackware at that point, and I remember building my own kernel to try out the new…

2.6 was also the switch from OSS to Alsa, which caused some fun, Alsa really was not ready for prime time.

And once ALSA was working pretty well for me, PulseAudio came too soon.

Re: I love the work of the ArchWiki maintainers

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Post by account42 »

lucideer wrote: post #93
reidrac wrote: post #85

Very useful because the information is almost distribution agnostic as Arch will stick to upstream as much as possible; or at least that's my impression as Debian user reading their wiki. Also: isn't the Arch wiki the new Gentoo wiki? Because that was the wiki early 2000s and, again, I've never used Gentoo!

Gentoo's wiki is still great (& Arch's has been great for a long time), but yes, Arch's is probably improving at a faster rate. Arch is also a little more comprehensive when it comes to mainstream tech that's divergent like init & network management - Gentoo's still good here but openrc & netifrc show their influence throughout.

I think the Gentoo wiki that gp is referring to is the old gentoo-wiki.info that went down after a hardware failure or something like that and never came back.

The wiki.gentoo.org we have now restores some of that but probably not everything - and there was a void left between them that let the Arch wiki gain mindshare.

Re: I love the work of the ArchWiki maintainers

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Post by rurban »

kryptiskt wrote: post #94
rurban wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Neat? I would use other words. Fraudsters rely on marketing. https://danielpocock.com/en/matthias-fsfe-analogous-identity...

That guy has a history of harassment in Debian, and is not a credible source.

The director of the FSF is not a credible source? All the harassed and exploited third-world women are not credible? Certainly more credible than this guy.

Re: I love the work of the ArchWiki maintainers

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Post by miladyincontrol »

MathMonkeyMan wrote: post #78
itvision wrote: post #77

This wiki exemplifies how broken Linux (on desktop) is and it's weird Linux fans ignore this fact.

It exemplifies how complicated a "combine software to make your own user space" system is. I've been running Ubuntu this or that since 2007. Desktops, laptops, work computers, personal computers, servers. There has been some BS to deal with, but frankly with common hardware it's exactly the same as any other system. Desktop runtime with web browser support. Except that you can do whatever you want, if you choose. The…

The idea of arch was never that its "supposed to be hard mode", its meant to hit what many of it's users consider the sweet spot of not being too opinionated but not leaving every single factor up to the user either. For many people that balance makes it in fact easymodo.

Calling it hard mode is putting it on a pedestal, a weird one that ignores much less opinionated linux distros and setups like Gentoo.

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Post by Idesmi »

miki123211 wrote: post #106
pjerem wrote: post #62

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I do think we will, at some point, face a knowledge crisis because nobody will be willing to upload the new knowledge to the internet. Then the LLM companies will notice, and they’ll start to create their own updated private training data. But that may be a new centralization of knowledge which was already the case before the internet. I wonder if we are going to some sort of equilibrium between LLMs and the web or i…

I wouldn't be surprised if LLM companies end up sponsoring certain platforms / news sites, in exchange for being able to use their content of course. THe problem with LLMs is that a single token (or even a single book) isn't really worth that much. It's not like human writing, where we'll pay far more for "Harry Potter" and "The Art of Computer Programming" than some romance trash with three reads on Kindle.

It's happening https://wikimediafoundation.org/news/2026/01/15/wikipedia-ce... Although editors paid directly by the Foundation are not the majority of Wikipedia.

Re: I love the work of the ArchWiki maintainers

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Post by easygenes »

I do like the ArchWiki, but have found that some of their admins suffer from the same sort of petty tyranny and procedural injustice that commonly befalls internet moderation staff. I have seen the moderators go on unprompted rants against users in comment pages, be met with patience and understanding, and then try to hide the conversation when it wasn't going their way, without explanation.
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