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Re: Vim 9.2

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What's the elevator pitch if I already know Screen and I can just open multiple windows of the terminal emulator?

No pitch - just use screen, most people use tmux in exactly the same way - open a few splits and switch between them with keyboard shortcuts.

Tmux is better supported by other tools, such as fzf.

Re: Vim 9.2

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There was a time when Bram Moleenar refused to do any updates to Vim, until Neovim came along.

Bram Moolenaar updated Vim periodically for decades: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vim_(text_editor)#Versions The complaint, including from the Neovim founder, was that Moolenar rejected their update.

Ah! That's the full story, interesting. The rejected update was making plugins asynchronous.

Re: Vim 9.2

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Congratulations! >Full support for the Wayland UI I really hope they never deprecate X11 support :) I doubt they will, but if they do, it will leave the BSDs without a good alternative.

Unless I'm misunderstanding the problem, Wayland is available on FreeBSD. https://docs.freebsd.org/en/books/handbook/wayland

Not all *BSDs is FreeBSD :)

A NetBSD posted a blog stating NetBSD is having issues porting Wayland due to Linux specific items. OpenBSD stated something similar.

Both articles indicated it will be a very long time, if ever, to get Wayland fully working on their systems. I did see this presentation that describes some issues as of 2025.

https://www.bsdcan.org/2025/talks/BSDCan2025-jeff_frasca-way...

Re: Vim 9.2

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Congratulations to Christian and all the contributors on another vim milestone. Thank you all. I am so thrilled to see vim development continuing.

As early vim (vi imitation) user on Amiga, I can't imagine living without it.

Re: Vim 9.2

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I am a lay user or vim. I use it daily for editing text files and a bit of code, but I always found the plugins and the scripting language rather daunting. There are different, conflicting, plugin management systems; and of course there's the scripting language that's vim-specific, and the few times I tried to delve into this stuff, I quickly found myself in over my head. So - on the occasion of VIm 9.2 coming out -…

Yes, switch to Neovim. Seriously, no sarcasm. You can import your existing .vimrc at first, if you even care. I highly recommend kickstart or some other simple config scaffold.

The exact same plugin management nightmare exists in Neovim just as it exists in Vim.

Re: Vim 9.2

#176

i have been using vim since v4 (1999?), but in the last year+ - maybe since v9? - there's some weird defect happening only once in a while: While walking around a file with keyboard, sometimes a random line's indent is removed - that is, text goes left-flushed. AND it's not a tracked change that can be UNDOne - as if it never happened / always has-been-so. Have not been able to correlate this to any other thing. It h…

Maybe make a bug report?

Re: Vim 9.2

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if the computer is provided for work, by the company you work for, it is not "yours" limitations on what you can install on such machines can be quite draconian, including forbidding anything that IT Security and similar departments may not like.

I meant the work laptop you are given through working as a SWE. Are you referring to jobs in IT? And are you allowed to use your own personal computer (laptop)? If not, and you have to work on what you have been given, why are people OK with it[1]? In the case of IT jobs? I cannot imagine being productive without my OS, WM, IDE, configurations and whatnot. I did work on a desktop in an office before, using their soft…

I don't get where your surprise comes from. Of course companies have the last word on what tools you are allowed/obliged to use when you're on duty. Uniforms, vehicles, why not software?

Re: Vim 9.2

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Oopps, missed that. Now there is a v9.2.0 tag and a v9.2.0000 tag

I'm curious - what's the logic for both?

I suppose people not familiar with Vim version numbers may try tag v9.2.0 instead of using v9.2.0000, so for those I added a shortcut

Re: Vim 9.2

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But where are the AI features?? Gonna get left behind! Only joking of course, actually quite refreshing to see a new version announcement of something this major without any AI nonsense.

The announcement itself looks potentially AI-assisted, judging by the bulleted list style and redundant text under the "Charity: Transition to Kuwasha" section. But maybe some people just write that way.

I admit I am guilty of that, although I ran it via several iterations to make sure it covers everything I needed and created a nice style that i liked. It just saves me so much time.

Re: Vim 9.2

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

if the computer is provided for work, by the company you work for, it is not "yours" limitations on what you can install on such machines can be quite draconian, including forbidding anything that IT Security and similar departments may not like.

I meant the work laptop you are given through working as a SWE. Are you referring to jobs in IT? And are you allowed to use your own personal computer (laptop)? If not, and you have to work on what you have been given, why are people OK with it[1]? In the case of IT jobs? I cannot imagine being productive without my OS, WM, IDE, configurations and whatnot. I did work on a desktop in an office before, using their soft…

>I meant the work laptop you are given through working as a SWE.

Everywhere i've worked, i was not "given" a computer anymore than I was given a desk, a chair or a network connection. Perhaps "provided" would be better.

> And are you allowed to use your own personal computer (laptop)?

Never have been, and never have wanted to be.

>why are people OK with it

It's industry SOP, and people pay you to work that way.

> I cannot imagine being productive without my OS, WM, IDE, configurations and whatnot.

You need to improve your imaginative powers, and your technical knowledge.

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