171–180 of 316 posts
Remember everyone: If OpenAI successfully and substantially migrates away from being a non-profit, it'll be the heist of the millennium. Don't fall for it. EDIT: They're already partway there with the PBC stuff, if I remember correctly.
Nobody should have any illusion about the purpose of most business - make money. The "safety" is a nice to have if it does not diminish the profits of the business. This is the cold hard truth. If you start to look through the optics of business == money making machine , you can start to think at rational regulations to curb this in order to protect the regular people. The regulations should keep business in check wh…
It's not long ago they were a non-profit. This sudden change to a for-profit business structure, complete with "businesses exist to make money" defence, is giving me whiplash.
I hope this doesn't come across as being cynical in my old(er) age, but instead I just hope it's a reflection of reality Lot's of organizations in the tech and business space start out with "high falutin", lofty goals. Things about making the world a better place, "don't be evil", "benefitting all of humanity", etc. etc. They are all , without fail, complete and total bullshit, or at least they will always end up as…
OAI are deceptive. And have been for some time. As is Sam.
Remember everyone: If OpenAI successfully and substantially migrates away from being a non-profit, it'll be the heist of the millennium. Don't fall for it. EDIT: They're already partway there with the PBC stuff, if I remember correctly.
If not I’m confused by the amount of capital investment.
Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's not long ago they were a non-profit. This sudden change to a for-profit business structure, complete with "businesses exist to make money" defence, is giving me whiplash.
I find the whole thing pretty depressing. They went to all that effort with the organization and setup of the company at the beginning to try to bake this "good for humanity" stuff into its DNA and legal structure and it all completely evaporated once they struck gold with ChatGPT. Time and time again we see noble intentions being completely destroyed by the pressures and powers of capitalism. Really wish the board h…
It is not capitalism, it is human nature. Look at the social stratification that inevitably appears every time communism was tried. If you ignore human nature you will always be disappointed. We need to work with the reality we have on the ground and not with an ideal new human that will flourish in a make believe society.
Remember everyone: If OpenAI successfully and substantially migrates away from being a non-profit, it'll be the heist of the millennium. Don't fall for it. EDIT: They're already partway there with the PBC stuff, if I remember correctly.
> Don't fall for it. The vast majority of people here have no exposure to investing in OpenAI. It was cool to dunk on OpenAI for being a non-profit when they were in the lead, but now that Google has leapfrogged them and dozens of other companies are on their tail, this is a lame attack. We should want competition. Lots of competition. The biggest heist of all would be if Google wins outright, trounces the competitio…
Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yeah, for all that people make fun of the "Open" in the name their API-first strategy really did make this stuff available to a ton of people. They were the first organization to allow almost anyone to start actively experimenting with what LLMs could do and it had a huge impact.
DeepMind wrote the paper, and while Google's API arrived later than OpenAI's it isn't as late as some people think. The PaLM API was released before the Gemini brand was launched. Microsoft funded OpenAI and popularized early LLMs a lot with Copilot, which used OpenAI but now supports several backends, and they're working on their own frontier models now.
Yeah and it was Open AI that scaled it and initiated the current revolution and actually let people play with it.
> while Google's API arrived later than OpenAI's it isn't as late as some people think.
Google would not launch an API for Palm till 2023, nearly 3 years after Open AI's GPT-3 launch.
Yeah let's not pretend Open AI didn't spearhead the current transformer effort because they did. God knows how far behind we would be if we left things to Google.
Earlier quoted context omitted.
But what if AI turns out to be a commodity? We're already replacing ChatGPT by Claude or Gemini, whenever we feel like it. Nobody has a moat. It seems the real moat is with hardware companies, or silicon fabs even. The arms race is just to keep the investors coming, because they still believe that there is a market to corner.
If it’s a commodity then it’s even more competitive so the ability for companies to impose safety rules is even weaker. Imagine if Ford had a monopoly on cars, they could unilaterally set an 85mph speed limit on all vehicles to improve safety. Or even a 56mph limit for environmental-ethical reasons. Ford can’t do this in real life because customers would revolt at the company sacrificing their individual happiness fo…
Remember everyone: If OpenAI successfully and substantially migrates away from being a non-profit, it'll be the heist of the millennium. Don't fall for it. EDIT: They're already partway there with the PBC stuff, if I remember correctly.
> Don't fall for it. The vast majority of people here have no exposure to investing in OpenAI. It was cool to dunk on OpenAI for being a non-profit when they were in the lead, but now that Google has leapfrogged them and dozens of other companies are on their tail, this is a lame attack. We should want competition. Lots of competition. The biggest heist of all would be if Google wins outright, trounces the competitio…
Can you break that out a little? Did they avoid antitrust legs on AI or do you mean historically?