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Luce: First Electric Ferrari

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Re: Luce: First Electric Ferrari

#171

Where are the emotions? This is just a soulless machine. The website doesn’t even work properly. I can’t scroll all the way to the end on my iPhone.

The emotions are in the envy of those that can't afford them. In that sense it is no different than your iPhone: people that have these always mention they have them. The difference with your iPhone is they rarely actually drive them.

Hmm, for me it's the V8 in the back.

Re: Luce: First Electric Ferrari

#172

In case anyone was wondering what the Apple Car would have looked like inside, it would have been roughly this. As an Apple Car™ it makes sense, but as a Ferrari it's incredibly soulless and oversimplified. This Ive design aesthetic (Dieter Rams' aesthetic really) is fine on consumer electronics where you want the device to disappear and give way to the display, but on something as emotional as a vehicle (Ferrari esp…

So bland. An iPad put in a holder. I was not exactly hoping for, because I didn't really, but I dreamt of a much more radical design direction.

At least it's not your living room TV put in a holder. (Hi Elon!)

Re: Luce: First Electric Ferrari

#173

Porsche is the only car company that has nailed interior EV design - IMO. Their interiors look high-end, functional and not just a minimalist big computer screen. https://www.caranddriver.com/photos/g46528574/2024-porsche-m...

Dashboard-wide screen and almost absent physical controls? No, thank you.

Ferrari may not have nailed it, but it's a move to the right direction.

Re: Luce: First Electric Ferrari

#174

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The selling point of electric sports cars is more "the acceleration is amazing" and less "it makes a loud noise". e.g. > a 0–100 km/h (62 mph) acceleration time of 2.36 seconds, and a quarter mile (402 m) drag race time of 9.78 seconds. ... unofficially the fastest production car in the world https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yangwang_U9 > Model S Plaid Takes 2.07 Seconds to Accelerate from 0-100 mph https://www.energytr…

Acceleration is about the only selling point of a sports EV. They're so ungodly heavy because of the batteries that they handle like barges. They need giant tyres and so much ESC and software control because these things weigh almost 2000kg or more. You can try and work around it but there's only so much that can be done to make 2000kg take a corner. Looking at where sports cars will be in 10 years with ICEs being re…

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Re: Luce: First Electric Ferrari

#176

Porsche is the only car company that has nailed interior EV design - IMO. Their interiors look high-end, functional and not just a minimalist big computer screen. https://www.caranddriver.com/photos/g46528574/2024-porsche-m...

It literally is just a big minimalist computer screen. I drive a taycan and it would be significantly better if they were to remove the massive touchpad and replace it with a cluster of physical controls.

Re: Luce: First Electric Ferrari

#177

Is there a market for a $400,000+ electric sports car? For me, the excitement of a Ferrari, Lamborghini, etc is the engine and the sound.

It will have simulated gear changes if that helps at all...

Really? Simulating a transmission has been tried a few times over the last decade, but it's flopped repeatedly as just silly. It's not likely to impress Ferrari buyers.

The only successful vehicle which has that is a driver-training car built in China. It's electric, but has a clutch pedal and shifter which are inputs to the software. You can even "stall the engine".[1]

[1] https://www.jalopnik.com/this-chinese-electric-car-designed-...

Re: Luce: First Electric Ferrari

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> Side note: I wonder if, in 20 years, petrol cars will the preserve of the very rich and the very poor. Sure, except the very poor will be eco criminals (due to being unable to maintain their equipment to relevent emission standards/pay the associated offset fees) and will be selectively hounded and exploited by law enforcement.

At least in some jurisdictions, cars old enough (eg 30 years) are considered antiques and are exempted from emissions requirements.

Laws can always change as more and more people make use of loopholes to avoid taxes. Same how EVs lost their subsidies as more and more people are buying them. Governments always adapt to losses in tax revenue by finding new things to tax, it's the only thing they're efficient at.

Re: Luce: First Electric Ferrari

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At least in some jurisdictions, cars old enough (eg 30 years) are considered antiques and are exempted from emissions requirements.

Only if there are very few of them. If there's a critical mass of EV refuseniks in the future they will be banned.

>EV refuseniks

What about the EV unafordaniks?

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