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AI fatigue is real and nobody talks about it

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Re: AI fatigue is real and nobody talks about it

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Post by ithkuil »

WarmWash wrote: post #67
parpfish wrote: post #18

For me the fatigue is a little different— it’s the constant switching between doing a little bit of work/coding/reviewing and then stopping to wait for the llm to generate something. The waits are unpredictable length, so you never know if you should wait or switch to a new task. So you just do something to kill a little time while the machine thinks. You never get into a flow state and you feel worn down from this c…

I hope Google has been improving their diffusion model in the background this whole time. Having an agentic system that can spin up diffusion agents for lite tasks would be awesome

Because they would be faster?

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Post by SoftTalker »

zkmon wrote: post #161
xnx wrote: post #151

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How we use efficiency is a choice. It's possible to work a lot less if you accept quality of life from an older era (no phone, Netflix, etc.)

It's not a choice. For example, Windows XP is no longer a choice, because the context around it made it unsafe now, though it didn't change. Life style from an older era is no longer the norm, which means your relative life quality degrades automatically and it actually becomes unsafe.

When I retire I plan to have no phone, no computer, and no TV. These are by far the biggest time sucks in my life and I want to see what I can do without their distractions.

I might keep a tablet or old phone with no service so that I can still do email.

Re: AI fatigue is real and nobody talks about it

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Post by SoftTalker »

cs702 wrote: post #148

Instead of managing code , you're now managing AI entities . Managing people has always been emotionally and psychologically exhausting. Managing AI entities can be even more taxing. They're not human beings.

Managing people has always seemed easy to me. Don't be an asshole, don't get personally invested in their problems, and things generally work out.

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Post by NBJack »

mrspacejam wrote: post #55
geetee wrote: post #14

Who knew managing a team of ten occasionally brilliant but generally unreliable engineers would be so draining.

I think you mean _micro_managing.

Ugh, yes. Normally, you can theoretically pair someone up with a stronger engineer and watch as they learn and grow through their mistakes, while the stronger engineer keeps them on the proverbial straight and narrow with what they produce, through code reviews, documents, etc.

But now, I can't trust any of the models to be that reliable. I can't delegate that responsibility. And since context and prompting is such a fickle thing, I can't really trust any of them to learn from their mistakes, either.

Re: AI fatigue is real and nobody talks about it

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Post by rubslopes »

parpfish wrote: post #18

For me the fatigue is a little different— it’s the constant switching between doing a little bit of work/coding/reviewing and then stopping to wait for the llm to generate something. The waits are unpredictable length, so you never know if you should wait or switch to a new task. So you just do something to kill a little time while the machine thinks. You never get into a flow state and you feel worn down from this c…

I used to lose myself in focused work for hours. That's changed. Now I'm constantly pulled away, and I've noticed the pattern: I send a prompt, wait for the reply, and drift into browsing. Without SelfControl blocking me, I can't seem to resist. I am certainly more productive with LLMs, but I also feel much more tired (and guilty) after a day of work.

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Post by adamddev1 »

It seems a better and fuller solution to a lot of these problems is to just stop using AI.

I may be an odd one but I'm refusing to use agents, and just happily coding everything myself. I only ask a LLM occasional questions about libraries etc. Are there others like me put there?

Re: AI fatigue is real and nobody talks about it

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Post by adamddev1 »

It seems a better and fuller solution to a lot of these problems is to just stop using AI.

I may be an odd one but I'm refusing to use agents, and just happily coding almost everything myself. I only ask a LLM occasional questions about libraries etc or to write the occasional function. Are there others like me put there?

Re: AI fatigue is real and nobody talks about it

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Post by sgarland »

thrownaway561 wrote: post #140

Personally I'm loving AI for TECHNICAL problems. Case in point... I just had a server crash last night and obviously I need to do a summary on what could have possibly caused the issue. This use to take hours and painfully hours at that. If you ever had to scroll through a Windows event log you know what I'm talking about. But today I just got an idea of just exporting the log and uploading it to Gemini and asking it…

I have little to no experience with Windows Server, but at least on Linux, this shouldn’t take hours.

Find the last log entries for the system before the reboot; if they point to a specific application, look at its logs, otherwise just check all of them around that time, filtering by log level. Check metrics as well - did the application[s] stop handling requests prior to the restart (keeping in mind that metrics are aggregations), or was it fine up until it wasn’t?

If there are no smoking guns, a hardware issue is possible, in which case any decent server should have logged that.

> I just want to know what to do to fix it if it can be fixed.

Serious question: how do you plan on training juniors if troubleshooting consists of asking an AI what to do?

Re: AI fatigue is real and nobody talks about it

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Post by jondwillis »

keyle wrote: post #147
mikkupikku wrote: post #112

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I know this is a terribly irresponsible and immature suggestion, but what I've been doing is every time I give claude code a request of indeterminate length, I just hit a blunt and chill out. That and sometimes I'll tab into the kind of game that can be picked up and put down on very short notice, here's where I shameless plug for the free and open source game Endless Sky. For me personally, programming lost most of…

Imagine the captain high while auto pilot is on... who's flying this thing!

It’ll probably be fine. Mostly.
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