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An Update on Heroku

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Re: An Update on Heroku

#171
RIP Heroku.

It was good before SalesForce…

In 2018, I had to transition my org at the time from Heroku to AWS (with the org lacking any AWS experience outside of myself).

We ended up with a “Heroku-like” experience. Push to GitHub. Action triggers job. Job packages and deploys. À la carte yaml config for extras like databases and ALBs. It worked pretty well. It was an in house solution to an in house problem.

Still, it wasn’t quite Heroku…

Re: An Update on Heroku

#173

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> with an emphasis on maintaining quality and operational excellence rather than introducing new features it sounds pretty clear that it's in maintenance mode

It’s clear enough but they aren’t going out of their way to make it obvious. It’s definitely fluffed up / corporately sanitized.

Damage control to limit the rush for the exits?

Re: An Update on Heroku

#174

Back in the day, Heroku, Stripe, and GitHub were iconic engineering organizations. They had this culture rooted in Unix ethos with a sprinkle of modern minimalism and style that was outstanding. You could really see people give a damn in the careful design and polish of their APIs, docs, primitives, and overall output. Now Heroku and GitHub have been gutted in spirit by their acquirers, which is such a damn shame for…

Amongst the people opting for just plain Linux servers Linode was the big name back then. They later got supplanted by DigitalOcean, and both are of course also run into the ground by now.

Re: An Update on Heroku

#175

Spinning up temporary VMs/stateful machines is going to be super valuable in the next year or 2. Heroku not jumping on this just shows the state of Salesforce. Absolutely inept. I foresee slack going down a similar path of enshittification

Thanks for reminding me that slack is owned by Salesforce. What are we going to use when slack turns to shit, IRC again maybe?

Re: An Update on Heroku

#176

It took me several reads to distill their post to this one sentence: "Enterprise Account contracts will no longer be offered to new customers" I'd be glad to stand corrected but AFAICT this is the only sentence that describes the change. All other say "nothing is changing in [some area]". Trying to downplay something to that extent immediately raises suspicious that this something (the change) is much more profound t…

Salesforce, like every large enterprise software company, has a formal (and strict) End of Life process. It starts with an announcement like this indicating End of Sales, then once the contract obligations are met, they can end support, then EoL.

There is no way they can avoid this kind of public notice.

Re: An Update on Heroku

#177
post #139
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"We know changes like this can raise questions, and we want to be clear about what this means for customers." Proceeds to not be clear about what this means for customers.

If any Heroku customer is reading this and not immediately going "we need to move off Heroku ASAP" all future problems are their own fault.

That has been the case for a very long time at this point, the Salesforce acquisition was a death knell. The only stuff i have left on Heroku are zombie projects I don't care about.

Re: An Update on Heroku

#178
post #10

"We know changes like this can raise questions, and we want to be clear about what this means for customers." Proceeds to not be clear about what this means for customers.

> including helping organizations build and deploy enterprise-grade AI in a secure and trusted way. Baffling

Reminds me of when blockchain was in literally everything. So the wheel turns.

Re: An Update on Heroku

#180

Wow, I have to admit that I have not heard anyone in the past 2 years or so to be on Heroku so it makes sense. I think they handled it quite well knowing that there most likely have been a steady decline of users. Generally I would avoid promoting myself but in this situation I think it fits the topic. I'm co-founder of a Platform-as-a-Service based in Europe named Ploi Cloud [0]. We focus on web applications working…

Tiny nitpick but you may want to localize the pricing page, in the UK we use . as a separator instead of , - thought you were changing €1000/month for one 1 vCPU!
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