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Re: European Commission Trials Matrix to Replace Teams

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Post by dreamteam1 »

jacquesm wrote: post #98
sam_lowry_ wrote: post #93

It's good to start somewhere, but as a reminder, it's the same European Commission that: 1. runs on Microsoft software that it buys from Fujitsu UK that HN crowd knows from the UK Post scandal 2. Has multi-billion euro digital initiatives and a puny single-instance public Gitlab with a handful of shamefully incomplete "projects". 3. Tells everyone that they have their own AI helpers while actually renting LLMs from A…

They also sometimes forget to clean their shoes after walking in from the street. But at least this thing they will hopefully get right and maybe in the longer term they'll be able to break the lock-in on those other things as well.

Don’t hold your breath.

Re: European Commission Trials Matrix to Replace Teams

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Post by [deleted] »

dpc_01234 wrote: post #90
Ylpertnodi wrote: post #78

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Genuinely surprised at this - I've never heard of signal desktop not being fast, or good. Works a1 for me.

Signal Desktop is having its db corrupted every other time I launch it, and wants me to reconnect to the phone. The UX is OKish.

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Re: European Commission Trials Matrix to Replace Teams

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Post by tormeh »

kisamoto wrote: post #146
Esophagus4 wrote: post #133

Someone once said to me, be very careful about negotiating with leverage… when you twist someone’s arm, they’ll say, “I’ll remember that. You may have won this one, but I’m gonna win the next one.” Sadly, the US has done this to ourselves… all this arm twisting and strong-manning is coming home to roost. It’s not clear that patchwork EU government back offices migrating off Teams will hurt US tech, but long term, in…

> EU can’t out innovate US tech why not? Okay not today but China was known as the cheap copier and is now the innovator.

EU labor laws, and fractured internal market.

Re: European Commission Trials Matrix to Replace Teams

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Post by jaredklewis »

legulere wrote: post #150
jaredklewis wrote: post #67

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I don’t know much about Matrix. Maybe in this case the key is money. But having worked at various startups and enterprises, it is very common for lots of money and resources to thrown at projects and for little or no progress to be made. Money might be a necessary condition but it’s definitely not a sufficient one. See Microsoft teams. Again I know nothing about Matrix, but I found your comment about UX concerning. U…

> UX is a problem that is almost immune to money Usability testing seems like something where you can get better UX with a lot of money: https://www.nngroup.com/articles/usability-testing-101/

Oh I doubt it, unless you have that person with vision to interpret the results of the usability testing and turn them into a single cohesive design.

Good UX comes from someone that has deeply internalized the problems a piece of software is solving for users and the constraints on those users. Most startups do this without usability testing by doing things like sales or customer support. Anyway, IME usability testing is not the bottleneck to good UI.

Re: European Commission Trials Matrix to Replace Teams

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Post by jacquesm »

dreamteam1 wrote: post #171
jacquesm wrote: post #98

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They also sometimes forget to clean their shoes after walking in from the street. But at least this thing they will hopefully get right and maybe in the longer term they'll be able to break the lock-in on those other things as well.

Don’t hold your breath.

Agreed. Hope sets you up for disappointment and all that but still, better than nothing at all.

Re: European Commission Trials Matrix to Replace Teams

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Post by Arathorn »

forsakenharmony wrote: post #162
Arathorn wrote: post #130

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France donates to the Matrix Foundation (which helps the protocol retain its neutrality and independence, and is very much appreciated), but doesn't currently financially support Element's dev as their upstream. We're trying to fix that though!

better this way than the other way, element doesn't support the matrix foundation enough

Element has put tens of millions of dollars into Matrix over the years and today provides hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of resources per year to support it.

Amandine (acting managing dir on the fdn) is preparing the public financial report of the Foundation which will have more details on this; it should be out in a few weeks.

Re: European Commission Trials Matrix to Replace Teams

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Post by lstodd »

xethos wrote: post #160
lstodd wrote: post #87

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Because mobile notifications require integration with operators and cost money. This is not about the ones that are pushed over IP, this is about mobile push.

Mobile notifications do not require outside operators. UnifiedPush / ntfy is FLOSS, and allows for a single background connection for multiple apps / notification channels. It can also be self-hosted (and I do!) This puts the operational costs (number of devices and notifications) on whomever is running the server - and because of how valuable metadata is, I expect them to be run in-house by governments

Well I guess you can do the same with zulip, redirect notifications somewhere else that is. Never hosted zulip, but it should be more or less staightforward when hosting it yourself, the 10 free looks like a limit when using their endpoint, not universal.

Re: European Commission Trials Matrix to Replace Teams

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Post by panick21_ »

Esophagus4 wrote: post #133

Someone once said to me, be very careful about negotiating with leverage… when you twist someone’s arm, they’ll say, “I’ll remember that. You may have won this one, but I’m gonna win the next one.” Sadly, the US has done this to ourselves… all this arm twisting and strong-manning is coming home to roost. It’s not clear that patchwork EU government back offices migrating off Teams will hurt US tech, but long term, in…

A lot of the worlds actual problems are not about innovation but correctly using existing technologies and making the right investments in the needed infrastructure.

Re: European Commission Trials Matrix to Replace Teams

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Post by panick21_ »

iknowstuff wrote: post #169
pm3003 wrote: post #58

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Germany (government and armed forces) and NATO also use it.

Germany?? I can’t imagine unless they’re using it to send pictures of signed and stamped printed and scanned letters

Germany doesn't universally use it but its used in germany, for example for healthcare.
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