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CIA to Sunset the World Factbook

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Re: CIA to Sunset the World Factbook

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Have you used one recently? The big providers all cite sources if give a research prompt.

Sometimes they hallucinate them, or if they exist, sources include blatant nonsense (like state owned propaganda, such as RT) / don't support the claims made by the output.

wtf are you conversing with LLMs that you regularly are running into "state owned propaganda" in the references? my "blatant nonsense" detector is going off...

Re: CIA to Sunset the World Factbook

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Unfortunate. So many essays that I wrote in school cited The World Facebook as a source. I'm worried that the death of these easily accessible sources will push more and more pupils into relying on Wikipedia or even worse: AI. Being critical of what you see online and finding facts yourself is crucial to digital literacy.

Isnt it already in AI as the prior version were publicly and should be in training corpus?

Ai training can be thought of like human training (school), much of what you learn shapes you but you forget the details. We need to continue to have real sources of info.

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Can you add context on what Gopher is for the unknowning? I searched for it but https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gopher_(protocol) is the only seemingly relavent thing I found not sure if thats exactly what your refering too?

It predated the World Wide Web as a client for browsing. It was developed at the University of Minnesota and named for the School's mascot. The client was not graphical. I felt like it was like swinging from vine to vine with each vine being a gopher site. Once one was on a site one could drill down a directory structure of published data. One would access an initial site by typing in it's IP address or domain name.…

> Once IP addressees became available to the public WWW browser became graphical.

What does that even mean?

Re: CIA to Sunset the World Factbook

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Unfortunate. So many essays that I wrote in school cited The World Facebook as a source. I'm worried that the death of these easily accessible sources will push more and more pupils into relying on Wikipedia or even worse: AI. Being critical of what you see online and finding facts yourself is crucial to digital literacy.

No worries, we can rely on our Dear Leader and his team of experts to keep us informed.

Re: CIA to Sunset the World Factbook

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I guess your sarcasm is not popular in this thread. Perhaps Musk-fatigue.

Most sarcasm worsens discussion. The comment guidelines say Don't be snarky.[1]

[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re: CIA to Sunset the World Factbook

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post #56

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Soft power includes positive perception. Every time someone learns that GPS is completely paid for by the American government and then freely available to the rest of the world, that shapes perception. The Facebook being quoted by so many school kids worldwide was a cheap softening of how the world perceived the CIA and America. Now how valuable that is isn’t clear, but when something is that cheap it doesn’t take mu…

We have Hollywood and spy movies/series now.

Hollywood and spy movies/series predate the web.

What makes the CIA Factbook useful is it reframes learning about other countries.

Re: CIA to Sunset the World Factbook

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post #123

Of all the organisations you’d think the CIA would understand the value of soft power and having some level of control of facts being published

It's part of a multi-pronged approach to intentionally cede US soft power. To what ends I'm still fuzzy on, but this discontinuation follows a pattern we've seen with this administration knee-capping or outright dismantling many of the ways this country spreads soft power such as through humanitarian services via USAID, broadcasts from Voice of America, ending international research opportunities and divesting us fro…

Soft power is just a buzzword to give value to things that have zero demonstrable value.

The CIA Factbook has played zero role in giving the US any measurable power.

Re: CIA to Sunset the World Factbook

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It's part of a multi-pronged approach to intentionally cede US soft power. To what ends I'm still fuzzy on, but this discontinuation follows a pattern we've seen with this administration knee-capping or outright dismantling many of the ways this country spreads soft power such as through humanitarian services via USAID, broadcasts from Voice of America, ending international research opportunities and divesting us fro…

Soft power is just a buzzword to give value to things that have zero demonstrable value. The CIA Factbook has played zero role in giving the US any measurable power.

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