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OpenClaw is what Apple intelligence should have been

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Re: OpenClaw is what Apple intelligence should have been

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Post by nilamo »

JimDabell wrote: post #120
fooker wrote: post #11

> I suspect ten years from now, people will look back at 2024-2025 as the moment Apple had a clear shot at owning the agent layer and chose not to take it Ten years from now, there will be no ‘agent layer’. This is like predicting Microsoft failed to capitalize on bulletin boards social media.

Ten years from now, the agent layer will be the interface the majority of people use a computer through. Operating systems will become more agentic and absorb the application layer while platforms like Claude Cowork will try to become the omniapp. They’ll meet in the middle and it will be like Microsoft trying to fight Netscape’s view of the web as the omniapp all over again. Apple will either capitalise on this by m…

I hope so. We're right on the cusp of having computers that actually are everything we ever wanted them to be, ever since scifi started describing devices that could do things for us. There's just a few pesky details left to iron out (who pays for it, insane power demand, opaque models, non-existent security, etc etc).

Things actually can "do what I mean, not what I say", now. Truly fascinating to see develop.

Re: OpenClaw is what Apple intelligence should have been

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Post by notatoad »

charcircuit wrote: post #123
notatoad wrote: post #90

this seems obviously true, but at the same time very very wrong. openclaw / moltbot / whatever it's called today is essentially a thought experiment of "what happens if we just ignore all that silly safety stuff" which obviously apple can't do. only an indie dev launching a project with an obvious copyright violation in the name can get away with that sort of recklessness. it's super fun, but saying apple should do i…

Apple has a lot of power over the developers on its platforms. As a thought experiment let's say they did launch it. It would put real skin in the game for getting security right. Who cares if a thousand people using openclaw. Millions of iOS users having such an assistant will spur a lot of investment towards safety.

>It would put real skin in the game for getting security right.

lol,no, you don't "put skin in the game for getting security right" by launching an obviously insecure thing. that's ridiculous. you get security right by actually doing something to address the security concerns.

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Post by keyle »

fooker wrote: post #11

> I suspect ten years from now, people will look back at 2024-2025 as the moment Apple had a clear shot at owning the agent layer and chose not to take it Ten years from now, there will be no ‘agent layer’. This is like predicting Microsoft failed to capitalize on bulletin boards social media.

We are likely the last generation to know how to use a keyboard. Sadly.

Kids can barely hand write today.

Once neural interfaces are in, it's over for keyboards and displays likely too.

Re: OpenClaw is what Apple intelligence should have been

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Post by tzury »

The notion that if it is good then the big-ones should have done it is the complete opposite of innovation, startups and entrepreneurial culture.

Reality is the exact opposite. Young, innovative, rebellions, often hyper motivated folks are sprinting from idea to implementation, while executives are “told by a few colleagues” that something new, “the future-of foo” is raising up.

If you use openclaw then that’s fantastic. If you have an idea how to improve it, well it is an open source, so go ahead, submit a pull request.

Telling Apple you should do what I am probably too lazy to do, is kind of entitlement blogging that I have nearly zero respect for.

Apparently it’s easier to give unsolicited advice to public companies than building. Ask the interns at EY and McKinsey.

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Post by zarp »

roncesvalles wrote: post #155
keyle wrote: post #78

people are buying Mac Minis specifically to run AI agents with computer use. They’re setting up headless machines whose sole job is to automate their workflows. OpenClaw—the open-source framework that lets you run Claude, GPT-4, or whatever model you want to actually control your computer—has become the killer app for Mac hardware That makes little sense. Buying mac mini would imply for the fused v-ram with the gpu c…

It doesn't make sense because it's a lie. The author's blog has 2 articles, both of them shilling OpenClaw.

Spoiler: the author is an OpenClaw instance.

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Post by Gigachad »

raw_anon_1111 wrote: post #109
crazygringo wrote: post #10

> This is exactly what Apple Intelligence should have been... They could have shipped an agentic AI that actually automated your computer instead of summarizing your notifications. Imagine if Siri could genuinely file your taxes, respond to emails, or manage your calendar by actually using your apps, not through some brittle API layer that breaks every update. And this is probably coming, a few years from now. Becaus…

Absolutely none of the things you quoted that he said an AI agent could do would I want be done for me and I doubt most other people would.

It would be an absolute disaster at Apple scale. Millions of people would start using it, filing incorrect taxes or deleting their important files and Apple would be sued endlessly.

Tiny open source projects can just say "use at your own risk" and offload all responsibility.

Re: OpenClaw is what Apple intelligence should have been

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Post by thepasswordis »

keyle wrote: post #174
fooker wrote: post #11

> I suspect ten years from now, people will look back at 2024-2025 as the moment Apple had a clear shot at owning the agent layer and chose not to take it Ten years from now, there will be no ‘agent layer’. This is like predicting Microsoft failed to capitalize on bulletin boards social media.

We are likely the last generation to know how to use a keyboard. Sadly. Kids can barely hand write today. Once neural interfaces are in, it's over for keyboards and displays likely too.

Just as a reminder, 15 years ago was 2011.

That was...like 4 macbooks ago. I still have keyboards from that era. I still have speakers and monitors from that era kicking around.

We are definitely, definitely not the last generation to use keyboards.

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