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Post by ventegus »

ranger_danger wrote: post #170
ventegus wrote: post #164

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is a perception that the use of the archive by the HN community has some positive value for the archive. But in fact: 1. HN uses a free service that someone else pays for. 2. HN abuses its paywall bypass function, which is not its main function, is not advertised (unlike 12ft). 3. HN creates legal problems for the archive by highlighting and framing the archive as a paywall-circumvention tool first. 4. HN promo…

> 4. HN promotes doxing. Source:

taking this very post from flagged trash can and posting again - is definitively a such act

Re: Archive.today is directing a DDoS attack against my blog

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Post by eipi10_hn »

wolvoleo wrote: post #167
mr_mitm wrote: post #156

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Then why hasn't anyone built a client-side browser addon that impersonates a suitable search engine?

They have. It's called bypass-paywalls-clean . It works pretty ok. It just keeps getting banned from the addon catalogs because of complaints from media. The Firefox one was taken down by a french newspaper. So you have to sideload it, which is hard to do on Android. Edit: it looks like even the github was taken down now: https://github.com/iamadamdev/bypass-paywalls-firefox But yes it exists. And it works for most s…

It's on gitflic.ru now.

Re: Archive.today is directing a DDoS attack against my blog

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Post by soultrap »

parable wrote: post #53

This likely means nothing, but the .is webmaster seems to have some sort of existing issue with Finland (where gyrovague is from), see https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37011955 . I thought I would point it out. Also, as someone interested in OPSEC and OSINT as a hobby, I find the measures taken by the .is webmaster, especially the dedication to setting up countless fake accounts for each persona, to be very intri…

> I find the measures taken by the .is webmaster, especially the dedication to setting up countless fake accounts for each persona, to be very intriguing.

This seems like a smart thing to do if you had exposed your real name somewhere and wanted to cover it up.

Re: Archive.today is directing a DDoS attack against my blog

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Post by JasonADrury »

protimewaster wrote: post #163
JasonADrury wrote: post #162

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We don't know that none of the names are real. And even if they aren't, the article is still showcasing his failed attempt at doxing the owner of archive.today and providing a starting point for anyone else wanting to try. > they were all already posted publicly previously Doxing very often consists of nothing more than collecting data from a bunch of public sources

> Doxing very often consists of nothing more than collecting data from a bunch of public sources I simply don't agree that this looks like doxing. No addresses or even any private information were reported. It's just a Google using WhoIs data and, in one case, the person said, in a public forum, that archive.is is "my website." Why would they have said that if they were worried about people finding out who it belongs…

Call it what you will, this activity is hardly defensible.

Re: Archive.today is directing a DDoS attack against my blog

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Post by wolvoleo »

eipi10_hn wrote: post #172
wolvoleo wrote: post #167

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They have. It's called bypass-paywalls-clean . It works pretty ok. It just keeps getting banned from the addon catalogs because of complaints from media. The Firefox one was taken down by a french newspaper. So you have to sideload it, which is hard to do on Android. Edit: it looks like even the github was taken down now: https://github.com/iamadamdev/bypass-paywalls-firefox But yes it exists. And it works for most s…

It's on gitflic.ru now.

Hmm yeah but their adversaries did achieve their goal by pushing it away from the mainstream sites. Now we're into this situation of "how much do I trust this vague Russian site with my browsing activity".

At least the addon declares the sites it's for and ignores the rest but still I'm a lot less comfortable with it. It's more something I'd install in a container now, limiting its usefulness :(

In practice I just use archive.today now.

Re: Archive.today is directing a DDoS attack against my blog

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Post by direwolf20 »

wolvoleo wrote: post #155
direwolf20 wrote: post #101

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You can't impersonate Google. Sites check the source IP and they don't overlap with Google Cloud.

Google isn't the only search engine in the world of course. It probably is pretty much the only one that matters in America but the world is not just America either.

It's the only one websites don't block. That's one reason it's so hard to make another search engine.

Re: Archive.today is directing a DDoS attack against my blog

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Post by protimewaster »

JasonADrury wrote: post #174
protimewaster wrote: post #163

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Doxing very often consists of nothing more than collecting data from a bunch of public sources I simply don't agree that this looks like doxing. No addresses or even any private information were reported. It's just a Google using WhoIs data and, in one case, the person said, in a public forum, that archive.is is "my website." Why would they have said that if they were worried about people finding out who it belongs…

Call it what you will, this activity is hardly defensible.

I simply don't agree with that, either. It just seems like journalism to me. No details were reported that would reasonably be expected to compromise anyone's safety. Why should it be disallowed to investigate the ownership of a website? People used to do this all the time when they were going to order products from a web store they'd never used before, to try to deduce if it was trustworthy. They'd look up the owner, verify that the store has a physical address, etc. Were they not supposed to be doing that? They're just supposed to never Google any of that and just pray instead, because, if they learn any of that information, they've done something morally reprehensible? That's absurd.

And, to that point, archive.is isn't so different from a store. They accept donations, so it seems perfectly reasonable to ask and answer questions about where the donations go IMO. Is it unreasonable to look at and report on Archive.org's nonprofit details?

Re: Archive.today is directing a DDoS attack against my blog

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Post by JasonADrury »

protimewaster wrote: post #177
JasonADrury wrote: post #174

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Call it what you will, this activity is hardly defensible.

I simply don't agree with that, either. It just seems like journalism to me. No details were reported that would reasonably be expected to compromise anyone's safety. Why should it be disallowed to investigate the ownership of a website? People used to do this all the time when they were going to order products from a web store they'd never used before, to try to deduce if it was trustworthy. They'd look up the owner…

What a bizarre take.

>It just seems like journalism to me.

What does that even mean? Are you trying to suggest that journalism is inherently okay? A piece of despicable journalism simply cannot exist?

>No details were reported that would reasonably be expected to compromise anyone's safety.

So it's okay because he failed at what he set out to do? I'd counter that regardless of whether or not the doxing was successful, publishing this information serves no other purpose but to aid future attempts.

>Why should it be disallowed to investigate the ownership of a website?

You have to be kidding, I feel like anyone with even just the most basic social skills would be able to understand that absolutely nobody gives a shit about what you do as long as it doesn't affect other people.

> And, to that point, archive.is isn't so different from a store. They accept donations, so it seems perfectly reasonable to ask and answer questions about where the donations go IMO.

Obviously it is very different from a store.

Besides, why would you spend time trying to identify the owner of a store who is obviously not interested in identifying themselves? Surely the right choice is to pass in approximately 100% of such cases.

Re: Archive.today is directing a DDoS attack against my blog

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Post by marxisttemp »

Duwensatzaj wrote: post #131
m132 wrote: post #96

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I don't think these two are exactly equivalent. Internet Archive is a registered non-profit organization. It is more trustworthy and accountable, but it cannot realistically stand against government-imposed censorship. We've seen this unfold before with Twitter and Meta, partly with Telegram. Archive.today may be similar on the surface, but if you take a closer look, it's actually an underground "evil twin" that has…

Internet Archive's trustworthiness took a hit when they waded into fact checking - https://blog.archive.org/2020/10/30/fact-checks-and-context-... and wiping content they disapproved of - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32743325

All your comments are right wing shilling

Re: Archive.today is directing a DDoS attack against my blog

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Post by ventegus »

godshatter wrote: post #147
JasonADrury wrote: post #6

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Finland did send hundreds of people to be murdered in Nazi concentration camps.

I couldn't care less if this person's grandfather was a Nazi, even if it turns out to be true. What are they supposed to do, go back in time and convince their grandfather to change their ways? It ridiculous using this as some kind of insult, and it disturbs me that people might take it as one.

Just do not take him for your own roleplay model
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