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Post by PunchyHamster »

palmotea wrote: post #152
iso1631 wrote: post #125

Earlier quoted context omitted.

SSID, signal strength, BSSID, private IP, public IP, ipv6, all trivially available to a binary running on a machine. It sounds far less than the diagnostics data I get from a small go binary. If corporate policy is you can't connect to starbucks wifi, then enforce that at the MDM mangement layer - I assume things like SCCM can do it.

> SSID, signal strength, BSSID, private IP, public IP, ipv6, all trivially available to a binary running on a machine. So it sounds like if you want to circumvent this: get a travel router that spoofs a work access point, and make sure any kind of identification requests that would reveal a public IP are either blocked or are going through your work VPN.

running it in a browser would be enough, no ?

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Post by crazygringo »

triceratops wrote: post #25

FTA > Remember when you could text Dave from the office to turn your PC on because you were stuck in traffic? I honestly don't. This was a thing? Why? > So if you decide to take a "working lunch" and connect to "Starbucks_Guest_WiFi", your boss sees it instantly. I would have a lot of fun with "creative" names for my Wi-fi network.

Seriously, this is not a thing. It doesn't even begin to make sense. It's made up.

If you work in a factory with time cards that need to be punched in, and you punch in a buddy's who is late, that's a thing -- a very risky thing if you get caught, since it's fraud.

But the idea that you'll give a coworker your password so they can boot up and log in and somehow make it look like you're online...? Not a thing. And doesn't even make sense today when you can just open your chat client on your phone anyways and be present there. We've been in an era of remote work for a long time now.

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Post by [deleted] »

bri3d wrote: post #11

Here's the actual "roadmap" feature (scroll to the bottom where the filtered list is): https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-365/roadmap?search... The actual feature brief is: "When users connect to their organization's Wi-Fi, Teams will soon be able to automatically update their work location to reflect the building they're working from. This feature will be off by default. Tenant admins will decide whether to e…

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Post by Tomte »

OtomotO wrote: post #145
bnchrch wrote: post #99

I truly believe our industry needs to elevate our own anti-awards, like others have (Razzies, Worst Game of the Year, etc.) to shame those responsible for building the regressive tech that corporations and governments push. There's already the Big Brother Awards [0] and EFF's smattering of Worst Government and Worst Data Breach articles each year. [1] But I think we need more. Personally I would love to nominate: - M…

https://scheisstool.de/site/ Should issue the award!

The original is dreckstool.de

Re: Microsoft 365 now tracks you in real time?

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Post by smeej »

> Remember when you could text Dave from the office to turn your PC on because you were stuck in traffic?

I don't understand why this doesn't still work. If Dave from the office has access to your PC, presumably Dave and your PC are in the office, connected to your office's network, and thus it would appear that you are in the office?

Or is the assumption that you're carrying another device with you that would give you away? In which case, shouldn't the complaint be more about being forced to perform some kind of work task (like carrying/being accessible by your phone) when you're off the clock...which is hardly a new issue/complaint?

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Post by kccqzy »

xcf_seetan wrote: post #85

Does it works both ways? Does it also tracks where the boss is? To be fair to the employee, he should be able to see where the boss is at any time.

Completely agree. My employer makes all employee badging data available. Any employee can view whether any other employee has badged into the office and when. This includes viewing whether your boss has come in.

However badging data is much more coarse-grained than WiFi. For one, because the building is large, you can’t tell which part of the office the employee is. For two, you can’t tell when the employee has left work because no badging is needed to exit the building.

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Post by chankstein38 »

pousada wrote: post #97
seanclayton wrote: post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Employees need to join a union

Personally I wouldn’t even start working for an organisation that uses Microsoft …

We used to use GSuite then we got acquired and we're a microsoft shop. :(

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Post by eaglelamp »

reaperducer wrote: post #164
uean wrote: post #149

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Working on the systems/security/infrastructure side, we can already do this. Endpoint management systems already report wifi-ssid, internal-IP, whether you are using a vpn to try and hide info. SASE/ZTNA solutions provide location data, username, device used, connection details. Conditional access policies in the tenant already do checks against all of this anyway. The roadmap just makes the whole thing user-facing s…

Working on the systems/security/infrastructure side, we can already do this IT having the information for security is one thing. In the hands of power-hungry lower middle managers, it becomes a weapon.

In my experience the most common use of this data is to build case for firing someone for cause when upper management wants them out. It's rarely used for actual security purposes.
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