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Re: Best Gas Masks

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Post by mindslight »

philwelch wrote: post #167
mindslight wrote: post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe we should talk about the first time the US had this level of political resistance against "lawful authority". That seems like a better analogy for what's going on here. Also I feel compelled to point out that "lawful authority" does not imply "authority acting lawfully". The difference is painfully demonstrated by the existence of a thread discussing the use of respirators in response to government jackboots su…

> government jackboots suppressing lawful first amendment activity If that was actually happening, I would be opposed to it. The only people suppressing lawful first amendment activity were Don Lemon and his friends invading a church, interrupting services, and blocking the exits as they screamed abuse at the parishioners.

We're in a topic about tear gas being used to attack protestors. You yourself opened up this thread by saying that tear gas isn't the right answer, so it doesn't seem like you're denying this activity is happening. The only remaining angle I see is that you're claiming that the bulk of protestors who have been attacked were doing something illegal to prompt it? That is a tall claim, but I am of course open to evidence.

Because to me, it looks like you're merely doing whataboutism to the latest spectacle your media bubble is showing you. That you add "If that was actually happening, I would be opposed to it" is most concerning as it indicates how far your cognitive dissonance is able to be stretched.

Re: Best Gas Masks

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Post by rdl »

bluGill wrote: post #76
rdl wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Very recently Amazon announced they'd stop commingling inventory from 3P sellers and themselves, so it should be safer to buy from Amazon in the future (if you look at the specific seller), but still maybe worth avoiding for safety critical items which are difficult to inspect.

They still need to prove that isn't just a saying. A good reputation takes a long time to develop and very little time to lose. With safety gear I would not take a chance. If I'm going to take a chance I'd prefer to support a small company. Amazon is big, but I find most things they sell I can find a small company that sells the same for a similar price and they know their product and so will direct me to what works…

There are some products where I absolutely don't take a chance (I buy all my tourniquets/etc from North American Rescue, who are the manufacturer or primary distributor, directly), but for a while I wouldn't even buy razor blades from Amazon because of the risk of getting fakes or commingled inventory from shoplifting gangs. I'm willing to take that level of risk on Amazon policy now.

Re: Best Gas Masks

#174

Post by acessoproibido »

Aunche wrote: post #120
acessoproibido wrote: post #107

Earlier quoted context omitted.

News has always been propaganda for one side, its just sometimes more or less obvious. Personally I prefer the ones that make it clear where they stand as opposed to subtly influencing you while masquerading as "neutral".

It's 2026. Everyone knows that NYT is written by liberal elites for liberal elites (or aspirational liberal elites) who spend their money to read such articles. Even if you think it's propaganda, legacy media offers information and a perspective that cannot be found everywhere else. It's the same reason why traders read Zero Hedge even if they aren't ultra-libertarians. It may comfort you to imagine the NYT's editori…

I think you misunderstood my comment?

I mostly agree with you, I also read zero hedge, al jazeera and other media whose stance I don't broadly agree with.

To me NYT is actually pretty conservative, but YMMV

Re: Best Gas Masks

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Post by philwelch »

mindslight wrote: post #171
philwelch wrote: post #167

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> government jackboots suppressing lawful first amendment activity If that was actually happening, I would be opposed to it. The only people suppressing lawful first amendment activity were Don Lemon and his friends invading a church, interrupting services, and blocking the exits as they screamed abuse at the parishioners.

We're in a topic about tear gas being used to attack protestors. You yourself opened up this thread by saying that tear gas isn't the right answer, so it doesn't seem like you're denying this activity is happening. The only remaining angle I see is that you're claiming that the bulk of protestors who have been attacked were doing something illegal to prompt it? That is a tall claim, but I am of course open to evidenc…

> We're in a topic about tear gas being used to attack protestors.

You say protestors, I say rioters and organized physical resistance to legitimate law enforcement. If you think that’s a “tall claim” you’re the one in a media bubble.

Re: Best Gas Masks

#176

Post by mindslight »

philwelch wrote: post #175
mindslight wrote: post #171

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We're in a topic about tear gas being used to attack protestors. You yourself opened up this thread by saying that tear gas isn't the right answer, so it doesn't seem like you're denying this activity is happening. The only remaining angle I see is that you're claiming that the bulk of protestors who have been attacked were doing something illegal to prompt it? That is a tall claim, but I am of course open to evidenc…

> We're in a topic about tear gas being used to attack protestors. You say protestors, I say rioters and organized physical resistance to legitimate law enforcement. If you think that’s a “tall claim” you’re the one in a media bubble.

So to be clear, you are claiming that every person at every protest where ICE has attacked the crowd was looking to actively physically impede law enforcement?

Re: Best Gas Masks

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Post by philwelch »

mindslight wrote: post #176
philwelch wrote: post #175

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> We're in a topic about tear gas being used to attack protestors. You say protestors, I say rioters and organized physical resistance to legitimate law enforcement. If you think that’s a “tall claim” you’re the one in a media bubble.

So to be clear, you are claiming that every person at every protest where ICE has attacked the crowd was looking to actively physically impede law enforcement?

That’s never been the standard for riot control, but frankly I would be skeptical of anyone who was in the middle of a rioting mob who claimed they were minding their own business and playing candy crush on their phone.

Re: Best Gas Masks

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Post by internet_points »

zetanor wrote: post #6
dmazin wrote: post #2

While NYT etc mostly stand back as the U.S. crosses the rubicon, what started as a freaking gadget review site seems to employ nearly all the journalists with actual gusto left in America.

The gusto to post an Amazon affiliate listicle?

I read it as an insightful analysis of the concept of tear-gassing crowds disguised as an affiliate listicle.

Bonus points if someone actually puts some money towards a human journalist by just treating it as an affiliate listicle.

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