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Please don't say mean things about the AI I just invested a billion dollars in

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Re: Please don't say mean things about the AI I just invested a billion dollars in

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guys were just trying to take jobs away from you.... please stop being mean to us - richest people on earth 2026

Today a manager at my work asked all his teams including mine “please write up a report on how many engineers from your teams we could replace with AI”. Surprisingly, the answer he got was “none, because that’s not how AI works”. Guess we’ll see if that registers…

All of them because cost cutting is a red flag in business regardless of what year it is.

Re: Please don't say mean things about the AI I just invested a billion dollars in

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> There’s an extremely hurtful narrative going around that my product, a revolutionary new technology that exists to scam the elderly and make you distrust anything you see online, is harmful to society The article is certainly interesting as yet another indicator of the backlash against AI, but I must say, “exists to scam the elderly” is totally absurd. I get that this is satire, but satire has to have some basis in…

Training a model on sound data from readily available public social network posts and targeting their followers (which on say fb would include family and is full of "olds") isn't a very far fetched use-case for AI. I've created audio models used as audiobook narrators where you can trivially make a "frantic/panicked" voice clip saying "help it's [grandson], I'm in jail and need bail. Send money to [scammer]" If it's…

It's already happening in India. Voicefakes are working unnervingly well and it's amplified by the fact that old people who had very little exposure to tech have basically been handed a smart phone that has control of their pension fund money in an app.

Re: Please don't say mean things about the AI I just invested a billion dollars in

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Viewed from historical perspective, big tech is really reaping the benefits of the intellectual wealth accumulated over many thousands of years by humanity collectively. This should be recognized to find a better path forward.

Isn’t the reason we have a public domain so that people aren’t in a perpetual debt to their intellectual forebears?

Re: Please don't say mean things about the AI I just invested a billion dollars in

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I also am wearing machine-fabricated clothing and enjoying a host of other products of automation. I'm not really a fan of the "you criticize society yet you participate in it" argument. >I understand that one day this era will be history and society will be as integrated with AI as we are with other transformative technologies. You seem to forget the blood shed over the history that allowed that tech to benefit th…

>> I also am wearing machine-fabricated clothing and enjoying a host of other products of automation. > I'm not really a fan of the "you criticize society yet you participate in it" argument. It seems to me that GP is merely recognizing the parts of technological advance that they do find enjoyable. That's rather far from the "I am very intelligent" comic you're referencing. > The very least you can do is not impede…

>GP is merely recognizing the parts of technological advance that they do find enjoyable.

Machine fabrication is nice. Machine fabrication from sweatshop children in another country is not enjoyable. That's the exact nuance missing from their comment.

>GP simply voiced their opinion, which IMHO does not constitute "impedance" of those trying to fight for those futures.

I'd hope we'd understand since 2024 that we're in an attention society, and this is a very common tactic used to disenfranchise people from engaging in action against what they find unfair. Enforcing a feeling of inevitability is but one of many methods.

Intentionally or not, language like this does impede the efforts.

Re: Please don't say mean things about the AI I just invested a billion dollars in

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Viewed from historical perspective, big tech is really reaping the benefits of the intellectual wealth accumulated over many thousands of years by humanity collectively. This should be recognized to find a better path forward.

How? They are all losing tens of billions of dollars on this, so far. Open source models are available at highly competitive prices for anyone to use and are closing the gap to 6-8 months from frontier proprietary models. There doesn't appear to be any moat. This criticism seems very valid against advertising and social media, where strong network effects make dominant players ultra-wealthy and act like a tax, but th…

I'm not so sure thats correct. The Labs seem to offer the best overall products in addition to the best models. And requirements for models are only going to get more complex and stringent going forward. So yes, open source will be able to keep up from a pure performance standpoint, but you can imagine a future state where only licensed models are able to be used in commercial settings and licensing will require compliance against limiting subversive use or similar (e.g. sexualization of minors, doesn't let you make a bomb etc.).

When the market shifts to a more compliance-relevant world, I think the Labs will have a monopoly on all of the research, ops, and production know-how required to deliver. That's not even considering if Agents truly take off (which will then place a premium on the servicing of those agents and agent environments rather than just the deployment).

There's a lot of assumptions in the above, and the timelines certainly vary, so its far from a sure thing - but the upside definitely seems there to me.

Re: Please don't say mean things about the AI I just invested a billion dollars in

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Viewed from historical perspective, big tech is really reaping the benefits of the intellectual wealth accumulated over many thousands of years by humanity collectively. This should be recognized to find a better path forward.

How? They are all losing tens of billions of dollars on this, so far. Open source models are available at highly competitive prices for anyone to use and are closing the gap to 6-8 months from frontier proprietary models. There doesn't appear to be any moat. This criticism seems very valid against advertising and social media, where strong network effects make dominant players ultra-wealthy and act like a tax, but th…

I agree with your point and it is to that point I disagree with GP. These open weight models which have ultimately been constructed from so many thousands of years of humanity are also now freely available to all of humanity. To me that is the real marvel and a true gift.

Re: Please don't say mean things about the AI I just invested a billion dollars in

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Viewed from historical perspective, big tech is really reaping the benefits of the intellectual wealth accumulated over many thousands of years by humanity collectively. This should be recognized to find a better path forward.

How? They are all losing tens of billions of dollars on this, so far. Open source models are available at highly competitive prices for anyone to use and are closing the gap to 6-8 months from frontier proprietary models. There doesn't appear to be any moat. This criticism seems very valid against advertising and social media, where strong network effects make dominant players ultra-wealthy and act like a tax, but th…

Nvda is not the only exception. Private big names are losing money but there are so many public companies seeing the time of their life. Power, materials, dram, storage to name a few. The demand is truly high.

What we can argue about is if AI is truly transforming lives of everyone, the answer is a no. There is a massive exaggeration of benefits. The value is not ZERO. It’s not 100. It’s somewhere in between.

Re: Please don't say mean things about the AI I just invested a billion dollars in

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Yes, especially since they're talking about wiping about most or all white-collar jobs in our lifetimes. What's wrong with that?

Why drag your dead ancestors into the debate? On that note they say oil is dead dinosaurs, maybe have a word with Saudi Arabia...

Was this reply intended for a different comment? Or do I need more sleep?

Re: Please don't say mean things about the AI I just invested a billion dollars in

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Not at all. I’m saying AI doesn’t exist to scam elderly , which is saying nothing about whether it’s dangerous in that respect.

No one - neither the author of the article nor anyone reading - believes that Sam Altman sat down at his desk one fine day in 2015 and said to himself, “Boy, it sure would be nice if there were a better way to scam the elderly…”

An no one believes that Sam Altman thinks of much more than adding to his own wealth and power. His first idea was a failing location data-harvesting app that got bought. Others have included biometric data-harvesting with a crypto spin, and this. If there's a throughline beyond manipulative scamming, I don't see it.

Re: Please don't say mean things about the AI I just invested a billion dollars in

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It’s wild to me that we both see people like Jensen as great while also tolerating public whining of the sort in the linked article. Don’t get me wrong, there are people who are far worse! But why do we put up with a billionaire whining that people are critical of what they make? At that scale it is guaranteed to have haters. It’s just statistics, man.
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