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Re: I stopped following the news

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Reading the news and being informed are two separate things. Being an informed citizen, the kind that democracies need to survive, also requires 1) being informed of history and 2) understanding issues in depth. People who consume a lot of news tend to have very shallow understanding of a broad range of current events. Worse they tend to be passive receivers of news instead of active seekers of information with inten…

I'd like to get a little pedantic here and suggest it's not reading the news that's so problematic, it's 1) watching it, and 2) scrolling it. Not that print can't be effective propaganda, but it's less optimized to the task than 1 and 2. The passive pawns can't get enough of either.

Yes that’s a good point.

Re: I stopped following the news

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It’s unfortunate that American news slip into the HN feed, and that Americans get indignant when it gets flagged. I took so much flak for saying that I already know where to hear about US politics, and don’t need it forced into every unrelated forum.

> and that Americans get indignant when it gets flagged It's not exclusively (or mostly) U.S.A. residents who complain about contemporary politics topics getting flagged. We see plenty of complaints from Europe and elsewhere. We've long accepted that there is a large overlap between politics and technology. The Snowden leaks in 2013 were huge on HN, as were several other Wikileaks releases well before that. HN has ne…

I think that the current guidelines are very reasonable. Some news are relevant to hackers and foster the sort of discussions that make this website so great.

Others are just regular politics.

Re: I stopped following the news

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It’s unfortunate that American news slip into the HN feed, and that Americans get indignant when it gets flagged. I took so much flak for saying that I already know where to hear about US politics, and don’t need it forced into every unrelated forum.

As a Canadian I have a different perspective. I am upset when stories that are critical of the country that has threatened to annex my country are spiked by people who don’t want us to pay attention to the actions of the American government that is aided by American tech corporations and the people who work for them. From my perspective we’re not talking about politics, we’re talking about an existential threat and w…

I'm Canadian too. You can tapk about these things everywhere else. There are political discussions that fit this website - as the ones you listed - but regular US news belong elsewhere.

Re: I stopped following the news

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It’s unfortunate that American news slip into the HN feed, and that Americans get indignant when it gets flagged. I took so much flak for saying that I already know where to hear about US politics, and don’t need it forced into every unrelated forum.

I thought the question was about you reading the news, not about you preventing everyone else from reading the news . Surely the answer is, when you see news related keywords in an article title, to simply not click through. Same as when there’s so bit of technology or corporation that doesn’t interest you.

I believe that this space was created with a purpose and a set of guidelines. Some news are off-topic in that space. You can't scream in a library and tell people they should just wear earplugs if they don't like it.

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How does Wikipedia rank compared to news gathered by professional journalists and editors such as those at The Economist as mentioned?

Wikipedia editor here! I'd imagine not that far off as we use sources like the economist to write the articles

So you are not journalists by degree, training or other experience.

Re: I stopped following the news

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I think it's important to keep reading the news occasionally. Personally, I, as a programmer, read the news in the same way as my grandad who was a farmer. I read a printed weekly publication (in my case The Economist) on Sunday morning. Outside of Sunday morning I don't read the news at all. I prefer printed news to media-supported news, because I think the imagery (I acknowledge The Economist still has images) and…

If anyone is interested in keeping up with current events in a manner closer to "reading the history" rather than reading the news, check out Wikipedia's Current Events portal: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portal:Current_events

I read a few days down and stopped once I realized that absolute zero percent of any of it was useful information for me as a Northern European and all of it was terrible news. I don't think it's helpful for anybody that I know these things, while it is actually detrimental for my ability to be of service to other because of how it drains me.

Re: I stopped following the news

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I completely understand why, but on the other hand democracy relies on citizens being informed about what's happening. The risk is that one day, you wake up and there is no democracy any more.

On one hand I can see where you can draw this argument from. But on the other hand I don't think daily consumption of the huge quantity of news that exists is necessary for having a decent political opinion, especially given that most news is inflammatory junk (at least in my country). I just don't need a 5 page breakdown of every single event that some corpo decided to shove down our throats. Also - and maybe I'm na…

Yes. "The news" isn't information. It's just junk food for the mind.

There's nothing in the daily news cycle that is helpful for you, whilst there's lots that is bad for you.

There are other better ways to stay informed than to follow "the news".

Re: I stopped following the news

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The fact that this is downvoted really says it all. "I don't read the news" is pretty much dependent on one's profession being insulated from changing events. Which is not surprising why it's a popular opinion amongst technocrats that would rather not have democracy in the first place.

> on one's profession being insulated Even this is privilege. Try "one's identity". Last year, legal immigrants were fine. Today, their kids are kidnapped and used as bait to take them to Alcatraz. And that's not even the identity I'm mostly referring to. Very cool stance OOP, thank you for identifying yourself as the type of centrist heaven will reject at the gate and angels will never get tired of the reaction to t…

I'm not sure it's a good idea to be intellectually dishonest if you care about seeing the change you want to see.

Kidnapping kids is what they are doing?

Re: I stopped following the news

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I’ve had similar experiences. These days I only visit Hacker News to read some tech-related stuff. For me, not reading the news to the point where I ask my mom to turn off the TV when I visit is important, because I want to avoid hearing anything about wars, etc. As someone who lives in Poland, I followed so much news about the war in Ukraine in 2022 and 2023, and it was really bad for my well-being and my behavior.…

> But I’m grateful for the people who do follow the news, read it, protest against the bullshit, and participate more in the democratic process than I do. This is a completely human response to the horrible things happening the world both domestic and abroad. It’s also history repeating itself: doing nothing when bad things are happening in our communities is what allows them to happen. Think what the villages around…

Anyone downvoting this is either ostrich or a fan of Trump.
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