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Cloudflare claimed they implemented Matrix on Cloudflare workers. They didn't

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Re: Cloudflare claimed they implemented Matrix on Cloudflare workers. They didn't

#171

Days after the fake story about Cursor building a web browser from scratch with GPT-5.2 was debunked. Disbelief should be the default reaction to stories like this.

It's clear that on Hacker News many people have made absurdly deep investments into this "technology." There's going to be a long period of pearl clutching we have to dig out of until we get back to the standard hacker ethic of not believing anything published by corporations.

Re: Cloudflare claimed they implemented Matrix on Cloudflare workers. They didn't

#172

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This person works for Cloudflare. What else are they "vibe coding?" How long until Cloudflare shuts off half the internet due to a "mistake" again? How much longer are we going to accept that these are mistakes?

> How much longer are we going to accept that these are mistakes? How much longer are shareholders** going to accept that these are mistakes?

The problem is this analysis and the mindset of a shareholder are about as far apart as you can get. The market likes to pretend it is "sophisticated and knowledgeable." It's a slot machine and as long as the handle pullers smell money in the machine they're going to sit there and pull.

Re: Cloudflare claimed they implemented Matrix on Cloudflare workers. They didn't

#173

My charitable read on this is that an individual vibe-coded both the post and repository and was able to publish to the Cloudflare blog without it actually being reviewed or vetted. They also are not an engineer and when the agent hallucinated “I have built and tested this and it is production grade,” they took it at face value. You can tell since the code is in a public repository and not Cloudflare’s, which IMO is…

I have heard that Cloudflare leadership (CEO/CTO) review every single blog post personally.

Re: Cloudflare claimed they implemented Matrix on Cloudflare workers. They didn't

#174
post #37

The developer just "cleaned up the code comments", i.e. they removed all TODOs from the code: https://github.com/nkuntz1934/matrix-workers/commit/2d3969dd... Professionalism at its finest!

I also use this as a simple heuristic: https://github.com/nkuntz1934/matrix-workers/commits/main/ There exist only two commits. I've never seen a "real" project that looks like this.

I might just make dummy commits ("asdadasdassadas") in the prototyping phase and then just squash everything to an "Initial commit" afterwards.

Re: Cloudflare claimed they implemented Matrix on Cloudflare workers. They didn't

#175

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This person works for Cloudflare. What else are they "vibe coding?" How long until Cloudflare shuts off half the internet due to a "mistake" again? How much longer are we going to accept that these are mistakes?

> How much longer are we going to accept that these are mistakes? How much longer are shareholders** going to accept that these are mistakes?

I've always found it interesting that these tech infra companies' stock tends to rise in the immediate aftermath of these outages. My best guess is that people see the effect of the outage and say "Hey, this company I've never heard of sure seems to have a lot of customers!"

To be fair I've benefited from that in the past; this is an observation of my own that doesn't represent the views of any of my current or former employers.

Re: Cloudflare claimed they implemented Matrix on Cloudflare workers. They didn't

#178

Since cloudflare are busy editing this blog post to say something completely different from what it originally said, I feel that this archive link is relevant https://archive.ph/AbxU5

Hah. The coward even deleted the telltale "not just X; Y" LLM dead-giveaway line from the blog, after someone vomit emoji quoted it in the mastodon thread.

Re: Cloudflare claimed they implemented Matrix on Cloudflare workers. They didn't

#179

Days after the fake story about Cursor building a web browser from scratch with GPT-5.2 was debunked. Disbelief should be the default reaction to stories like this.

Btw, after I wrote that initial article ("Cursor's latest "browser experiment" implied success without evidence"), I gave it my own try to write a browser from scratch with just one agent, using no 3rd party crates, only commonly available system libraries, and just made a Show HN about it: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46779522 The end result: Me and one agent (codex) managed to build something more or less t…

Congratulations: you've single-handedly managed to humiliate a $29 bil. poster child for code-slop!

Re: Cloudflare claimed they implemented Matrix on Cloudflare workers. They didn't

#180
> Traditionally, operating a Matrix homeserver has meant accepting a heavy operational burden. You aren't just installing software; you are becoming a system administrator. You have to provision virtual private servers (VPS), tune PostgreSQL for heavy write loads, manage Redis for caching, configure reverse proxies, and handle rotation for TLS certificates. It’s a stateful, heavy beast that demands to be fed time and money, whether you are sending one message a day or one million.

I have limited experience with Matrix, but you don't actually need Synapse (reference homeserver) which is quite a resource hog and not even remotely easy to setup/administer.

You can just use the lightweight Continuwuity homeserver for the Matrix part, and Caddy for the reverse proxy/TLS/ACME part, installed on a VPS. Both require minimal configuration, and provide packages for many Linux distributions, as well as Docker images.

(Continuwuity is a fork of conduwuit which was a fork of Conduit. Conduit was abandoned, but is now active again, and there are also other active forks as well. However, it seems to me that Continuwuity is currently the most active fork.)

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