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> the rest of the world have easy access to. Except for China, where TikTok is nothing like the TikTok for the rest of the world
Which used to be seen as "Ew, China has their own version? Crazy censorship" but after some time it seems like the US is aiming for the very same thing. Classy.
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>is all about hiding information from the US public that most people in the rest of the world have easy access to. Are we talking about the Trump administration or the Biden administration? The current ban was passed under Biden with supermajorities in both houses. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Efforts_to_ban_TikTok_in_the_U... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protecting_Americans_from_Fore...
Why is it always a blame game? What dos that accomplish? There’s no “good guy” administrations. There’s just realpolitik. The current iteration of ICE is an outgrowth of the Obama admin, as is the problem with billionaires in politics. Biden put a target on Maduro's head before leaving office (continuing to fill a multi-administration powder keg re: Venezuela). Trump just had the panache to brazenly do the deed inste…
Just murdered two protestors. A bit of a change there.
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A NYT columnist Jamelle Bouie suggested (in jest) that the next Democrat administration send armed IRS agents to gated communities in Florida, to "investigate tax fraud". But this is exactly why all citizens should be concerned about the infringement of rights happening in Minnesota. If it is allowed without prosecution, you are next.
Why would anyone be opposed to the IRS catching tax cheats? This seems like such a bone-headed take. In any case it’s also historically illiterate, the IRS has long been used as a political weapon, infamously against “Tea Party” activists.
The forced US hosted tik-tok sale is all about hiding information from the US public that most people in the rest of the world have easy access to.
No, at least during the Biden administration when the law was passed, it wasn't.
This shit is a lot more complicated that a hot take based on today's news.
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I've never in my life used TikTok. Can you please point to a specific article, news source, journal, any piece of information that is legal in the United States that I don't have easy access to so I can see what I'm missing?
I've never in my life used TikTok. Can you please point to a specific article, news source, journal, any piece of information that is legal in the United States that I don't have easy access to so I can see what I'm missing? Whataboutism. You presumably know full well what the parent was describing, but if not: TikTok presents users with feeds of videos. For many users, this is their primary news source. An American…
That's their problem. You can't make blanket claims saying Americans now don't have easy access to information when there are other sources, ranging from the NYT to the Intercept, to anything you want to read being written and translated right on your computer from the EU or Japan or anywhere else you want to read.
> An American oligarch and party loyalist now has de facto control of the app.
Chinese oligarch, American oligarch. Either way someone without your best intentions in mind owns your platform. Maybe you should stop using it.
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You have easy access in that you can find things if you look for it. What that commenter means by easy access is that the information is in mainstream sources pushed to people such that you are likely to know about it without having looked. For example I made a comment here on HN recently that immigrants commit crimes at fewer rates than US born people. That sends a segment of Americans into a flying rage even though…
Mainstream sources that control narratives, and are owned by the same extremely wealthy people that we're complaining about now owning TikTok? Sorry, this doesn't pass the smell test for me.
But this complaint is pretty old, I think of Chomsky's Manufacturing Consent. (Setting aside his Epstein connections for a moment) The way we do censorship is much less the methods of a traditional totalitarian state and more like the private sector policing what is acceptable discourse.
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What words were China filtering? I've never seen reports of censorship like this on TikTok before Ellison bought it.
On WeChat and Douyin (chinese tiktok), good luck mentioning things like: the cultural revolution famine the great leap forward Taiwanese independence Hong Kong self governance democracy human rights Falun Gong Uyghur people free speech KMT party Chiang Kai-shek and that's just off the top of my head. there are likely hundreds of others.
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> hiding information from the US public It is literally on the front page of news papers.... Also, you can see it on Instagram, X, etc. Even a cursory search on TikTok reveals anti-ICE content...
TikTok is hugely influential, and the younger people they're trying to influence don't read newspapers and don't hang out on X or Instagram (both of which also censor certain political content). https://www.npr.org/2024/03/26/1240737627/meta-limit-politic... https://www.reddit.com/r/OptimistsUnite/comments/1i9zf5u/rco... https://arxiv.org/html/2508.13375v1
freedom of speech my a*
The forced US hosted tik-tok sale is all about hiding information from the US public that most people in the rest of the world have easy access to.