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Iran's internet blackout may become permanent, with access for elites only

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Re: Iran's internet blackout may become permanent, with access for elites only

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Post by noduerme »

jraby3 wrote: post #102

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My GF and I rarely discuss news or politics, but she's a frequent NPR listener who gets most of her (ahem) "news" from there and Reddit. So the other night something came up about Israel and she casually said "well, but everyone hates Israel now". In that context, I said what do they think about the masses of unarmed people shot in the streets of Tehran. So imagine my total surprise when she said she had no idea there were any protests in Iran. None at all. Somehow, for a couple years of the war in Gaza, she was attuned to every video - real or fake - that was attributed to that war zone. Yet this completely passed without her noticing.

She said, "well, how would I know about it if it's not on the news?"

I said, "well, it was on the news." And then I went looking for articles about it. And y'know, I realized that unless you actually went looking, you probably wouldn't find those articles, even though they're only a few weeks old.

What is super disappointing about this is that when the US does take action against the Iranian regime again, the reasoning is not going to be legible to most Americans. I don't really understand how this was erased so quickly. That meme about Columbia's campus being totally protest-free was pretty much on point. It's startling to see a large portion of the population being manipulated so thoroughly into being rabid about one thing and totally blind to another at the same time. Is having consistent values no longer a value?

Re: Iran's internet blackout may become permanent, with access for elites only

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Post by yfw »

noduerme wrote: post #171
jraby3 wrote: post #102

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My GF and I rarely discuss news or politics, but she's a frequent NPR listener who gets most of her (ahem) "news" from there and Reddit. So the other night something came up about Israel and she casually said "well, but everyone hates Israel now". In that context, I said what do they think about the masses of unarmed people shot in the streets of Tehran. So imagine my total surprise when she said she had no idea ther…

Might have to do with the funding cuts to public broadcasting?

Re: Iran's internet blackout may become permanent, with access for elites only

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Post by ranguna »

j3th9n wrote: post #79
yolkedgeek wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, This is different. In "normal" filtering situations, we can connect to most VPNs and do our stuff. When blackouts like these happen, EVERYTHING is blocked. It gets almost impossible to connect to a VPN. They have advanced tech that detects and blocks all VPNS and proxies. The internet speed is also now at crawling speed so you really can't upload download anything. Also, in each blackout, people find ways to work…

LoRa Meshcore.

Isn't that easy to jam?

Re: Iran's internet blackout may become permanent, with access for elites only

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Post by IshKebab »

culi wrote: post #46
feverzsj wrote: post #44

It actually surprised me that they didn't do it before. China already achieved this in 2010s.

Have they though? Everybody I know who grew up in China has told me its trivial to bypass restrictions with VPNs

Apparently they use traffic analysis now so it's difficult to bypass even with VPNs.

Re: Iran's internet blackout may become permanent, with access for elites only

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Post by lm28469 »

k4rli wrote: post #166
jraby3 wrote: post #102

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The way you just call them all militants using human shields is truly amazing. From reddit by same username I can see that you're an American living in Israel also so it matches up.

> an American living in Israel

lmao, every. single. time.

Re: Iran's internet blackout may become permanent, with access for elites only

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Post by idop »

avadodin wrote: post #158
jraby3 wrote: post #102

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It's not even in the same ballpark. 0.03% of Iranians vs 3% of Gazans. I think we can all agree that Iran shouldn't be massacring its own nationals even if as the government claims they are foreign-influenced, but don't use this as a platform to push an agenda that harms even your own cause.

Murdering 30,000 innocent people in three days of protests is indeed not in the ballpark of killing 30,000 militants in two years of a war, you're absolutely right.

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Post by vasco »

k4rli wrote: post #166
jraby3 wrote: post #102

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The way you just call them all militants using human shields is truly amazing. From reddit by same username I can see that you're an American living in Israel also so it matches up.

It's a beautiful thing when you can designate any male carrying objects in their hands as terrorists and get license to kill him and his human shields (guy went home).

Re: Iran's internet blackout may become permanent, with access for elites only

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Post by lukan »

m000 wrote: post #163
lukan wrote: post #139

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"to suggest that Israel targets non-combatants" Anything coming from Hamas is certainly not trustworthy, but according to the ICJ, there were quite a few more indications that Israel did this. Just the blocking of food alone is proof of targeting non combatants.

> Anything coming from Hamas is certainly not trustworthy This goes both ways and applies to all conflicts, but somehow we always cherry-pick the source that is not aligned with western interests as the "untrustworthy".

Who is "we"? What are western interests in this context?

I "cherry-pick" sources that do not spread lies. That excludes Hamas, as well as the circle around Netanjahu. The ICJ seems more interested in truth and you may criticize how that went for them, or are they anti western in your book?

Re: Iran's internet blackout may become permanent, with access for elites only

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Post by idop »

trolleski wrote: post #162
jraby3 wrote: post #102

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Half of killed in Gaza were kids. So the militants narrative is just untrue. However, if someone pick and chooses where to apply human rights, it's unethical to say the least.

If you say so
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