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Comma openpilot – Open source driver-assistance

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Re: Comma openpilot – Open source driver-assistance

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Post by phrotoma »

itake wrote: post #93
zeroq wrote: post #31

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- InsureCo, how may I help you? - Hey, I want to ask about installing a self driving module in my car... - Sure, you mean Tesla upgrade? - No, another one. - Another one? - Yeah, you remember that kid that hacked Playstation?

I think it was xbox?

Perhaps you're thinking of Bunnie Huang, who wrote a book about reversing the xbox. I love Bunnie because he seems to be in it for the joy and the sharing of information.

Geohot (IIUC) hacked the iphone because apple didn't allow devs to run their own code at launch, and the playstation because sony removed the ability to run linux on the console. I love geohot because he seems to be in it to stick it to the man.

Re: Comma openpilot – Open source driver-assistance

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Post by LoganDark »

grepfru_it wrote: post #158
rootusrootus wrote: post #87

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Some cars it does not support because nobody has been interested in testing it out. Some cars will never be supported because they are using an encrypted CANBUS. The list of cars on that list goes up every year. Eventually no current models will be supportable.

New Toyotas are encrypted and will likely not be supported.

2025 bZ4X is just the 2022 with some tweaks. Definitely does not have encrypted CAN bus. Maybe the 2026 bZ has it encrypted.

Re: Comma openpilot – Open source driver-assistance

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Post by rovr138 »

ninalanyon wrote: post #165
SirMaster wrote: post #136

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Big one, because all those cars require you to touch and move the steering wheel every X seconds. All the ones that let you go hands free cost a subscription of around $500 a year (Ford BlueCruise, GM SuperCruise). And even those only let you use hands free mode on pre-mapped roads, typically only interstates. Becasue most cars with lane follow still lose lock on the lane when the lines are hard to see (rains, snow,…

> All the stock lane keep that I have used in cars, if you fail to nudge the wheel they just disengage and you keep going at full speed in a straight line... is this true for current EVs as well? My 2015 Tesla S brings the car to a controlled stop with hazard warnings on.

..if your Tesla is an EV, aren’t you answering your question?

Re: Comma openpilot – Open source driver-assistance

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Post by rovr138 »

micw wrote: post #156

Can this be legally used in Europe, especially in Germany (i.e. is is allowed by the German traffic laws "Straßenverkehrsordnung")?

Unless something’s changed. It can’t even be used legally in the US.

They sell the device without firmware and you have to acquire and install it yourself to bypass government regulations.

Or something like that.

Re: Comma openpilot – Open source driver-assistance

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Post by wffurr »

When Consumer Reports tested ADAS systems in 2020 [1], they gave their highest rating to the Comma Two. I'm sure it's only gotten better since then.

I really like my 2017 Chevy Bolt except that it doesn't have ACC. I wish I was comfortable installing a Comma on it, but it requires a gas pedal interceptor [2], and I'm not willing to do that to a car that I transport my family in.

[1]: https://data.consumerreports.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/... [2]: https://github.com/commaai/openpilot/wiki/comma-pedal

Re: Comma openpilot – Open source driver-assistance

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Post by sandworm101 »

fragmede wrote: post #129
sandworm101 wrote: post #94

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Lane follow? Does it have lane discovery? There was snow on my commute this morning. 4-land highway was basically follow the leader. Pick some line where you think there is the most traction and stick with it. I have yet to see footage of an autodrive system in such a situation.

What's hilarious to me is that this scenario is framed as such an impossibly difficult thing for self-driving technology to accomplish. Detecting a car in front of you, and maneuvering left or right is doable without even using advanced models, nevermind the fact that we have them now. The other supposedly impossible feat is for the self-driving car to create a lane when there's been so much snow that the lines and t…

No cars to follow. No lane markings. Just a sheet of white with ditches on both side. Worse yet, no prior practice. Where you know the lanes are means little when the other cars are not respecting them. (As if lanes matter as nobody wants to drive that close together.) It isnt impossible but certainly a far more difficult problem than navigating an LA suburb.

Re: Comma openpilot – Open source driver-assistance

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Post by 999900000999 »

SirMaster wrote: post #143
999900000999 wrote: post #91

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My thoughts exactly. This is a horrible idea for a bunch of reasons. Real driver assist systems are tested for each car for millions of miles before release. I can imagine this as a toy on a recreational vehicle like an ATV, but it's outright reckless to put this on a real car.

Except this works so much better than the stock driver assist on most cars.

Maybe it does.

No way to tell without actual testing. As a giant obvious thing, if the adhesive isn't applied right it'll probably fall down during your commute .

At a minimum it should be screwed in or something.

Like I said, it's a cool toy. Put it on an ATV, not a real car.

Re: Comma openpilot – Open source driver-assistance

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Post by runako »

ninalanyon wrote: post #167
dingaling wrote: post #147

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I'd be more concerned about insurance being voided due to an undeclared modification to the vehicle. In the UK any third-parties will still be compensated, but the first-party will get nothing and will struggle to get car insurance in the future.

Does Comma.AI require modifications to the vehicle? I thought it just plugged in to the CAN bus or diagnostics port.

Any competent court would find that is a modification to the prescribed operation of the vehicle.

Re: Comma openpilot – Open source driver-assistance

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Post by SirMaster »

ninalanyon wrote: post #165
SirMaster wrote: post #136

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Big one, because all those cars require you to touch and move the steering wheel every X seconds. All the ones that let you go hands free cost a subscription of around $500 a year (Ford BlueCruise, GM SuperCruise). And even those only let you use hands free mode on pre-mapped roads, typically only interstates. Becasue most cars with lane follow still lose lock on the lane when the lines are hard to see (rains, snow,…

> All the stock lane keep that I have used in cars, if you fail to nudge the wheel they just disengage and you keep going at full speed in a straight line... is this true for current EVs as well? My 2015 Tesla S brings the car to a controlled stop with hazard warnings on.

AP is definitely the exception and would safely stop you. But also AP is gone from new Teslas now and the comma costs what ir costs to subscribe to Tesla’s driving features for just 1 year.

All EVs probably stop fairly quickly because they brake when you aren’t pressing the gas or cruising. But I don’t know any that keep steering for you when they disengage when you fail to maintain attention.

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