Not a very hacker-friendly strategy, but Apple's market cap is pretty big. I think it comes down to whether Anthropic can make a product with enough of a lead over competitors to offset the restrictions.
Anthropic: Developing a Claude Code competitor using Claude Code is banned
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It might suffice to just make it look like you’re European to keep their goons from harassing you, which hasn’t happened yet but will, because that’s how these stories always end. Get a PO Box for a credit card and VPN in through Europe.
I think one might argue even a VPN might be enough. Theoretically someone might be European and can have American card or any other countries cards and it would generally be okay. So the only thing you kind of need to figure out is VPN and ProtonVPN provides free vpn service which does include EU servers access as well I wonder if Claude Code or these AI services block VPN access though. If they do, ehh, just buy a E…
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or you just do it and be in the EU it's a clear anti-competive clause by a dominant market leader, such clauses tend to be void AFIK
Who is the dominant market leader? OpenAI dwarfs Anthropic. Most people still haven’t heard of Anthropic/Claude. (For the record, I use Claude code all day long. But it’s still pretty niche outside of programming.)
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> You can use Claude Code to write code to make a competitor for Claude Code. No, the ToS literally says you cannot.
What's worse is that Anthropic also goes after customers who bought their services through intermediaries, even if the service was API (not subscription). If you use Claude models through CURSOR, Anthropic still applies its own policies on usage. Just recently they cut off xAI employees' access to Claude models on Cursor [0]. X has threatened to ban Anthropic from X. [0]: https://x.com/kyliebytes/status/2009686466746…
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My first switch was to open code + open router. I used it to try mixing models for different tasks and to try open weights models before committing to the hardware. Even paying API pricing it was significantly cheaper than the nearly $500 I was paying monthly (I was spending about $100 month combined between Claude pro, chat gpt plus, and open router credits). Only when I knew exactly the setup I wanted locally did I…
> but I could have gone with Nvidia and had much less issues (for double the cost, dual Blackwell's vs quad Radeon W7900s for 192GB of VRAM). > If you spend twice what I did and go Nvidia you should have nearly no issues running any models. I goodled what a Radeon W7900 costs and the result on Amazon was €2800 a piece. You say "quad" so that's €11200 (and that's just the GPUs). You also say "spend twice what I did",…
I'm planning a writing a ROCM inference engine anyways, or at least contributing to the rocm vllm or sglang implementations for my cards since I'm interested in the field. Funnily enough, I wouldn't consider myself bullish on AI, I just want to really learn the field so I can evaluate where it's heading.
I spent about 10k on the cards, though the upgrades were piece meal as I found them cheap. I still have to get custom water blocks for them since the original W7900s (which are cheap) are triple slot, so you can't fit 4 of them in any sort of workstation setup (I even looked at rack mount options).
Bought a used thread ripper pro wrx80 motherboard ($600), I bought the cheapest TR Pro CPU for the MB (3945wx, $150), I bought 3 128Gb DDR4-3200 sticks at 230 each before the craze, was planning on populating all 8 channels if prices went down a bit. Each stick is now 900, more than I paid for all 3 combined (730 with S&H and taxes). So the system is staying as is until prices come down a bit.
For AI assisted programming, the best value prop by far is Gemini (free) as the orchestrator + open code using either free models or grok / minimax / glm through their very cheap plans (for minimax or glm) or open router which is very cheap. You can also find some interest providers like Cerebras, who get silly fast token generation, which enables interesting cases.
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my guess? they lose money on 200/month plan, maybe even quite a bit. So that plan only exist to subsidize their editor. Could be about the typical "all must be under our control" power fantasies companies have. But if there really is "no moat" and open model will be competitive just in a matter of time then having "the" coding editor might be majorly relevant for driving sales. Ironically they seem to already have ki…
I'd say _yes_. This is my `npx ccusage` (reads the .claude folder) since nov 20th: │ Total │ │ 3,884,609 │ 3,723,258 │ 215,832,272 │ 3,956,313,197 │ 4,179,753,336 │ $3150.99 │ It calculates tokens & public API pricing. But also Anthropic models are generally more expensive than others, so I guess its sort of 'self made' value? Some of it?
│ Total │ │ 2,102,742 │ 622,848 │ 78,507,465 │ 1,670,798,000 │ 1,752,031,055 │ $1283.69 │
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Does it mean it will be outright banned in China? Otherwise I see DeepCode coming...
It already is. https://www.anthropic.com/news/updating-restrictions-of-sale... And Anthropic really goes out their way in banning China. Other model providers do a decent job at restricting access in general but look away when someone tries to circumvent those restrictions. But Claude uses extra mechanisms to make it hard. And the CEO was on record about China issues: https://www.cnbc.com/2025/05/01/nvidia-and-anthro…