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Re: My Home Fibre Network Disintegrated

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Post by JohnFen »

hsbauauvhabzb wrote: post #110
culi wrote: post #62

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There is no legal requirement for it to refer to MIL-SPEC. More often than not it is just pure marketing without any actual spec tied to it

Military grade afaict just implies the military ‘could’ use it, by that definition almost any company sells military grade products or services, except companies who explicitly would not sell to the military.

In the US, "military grade" is like "natural". There is no legally enforced meaning, so it means whatever the manufacturer says it means. Sometimes that's something real and of some value, but the majority of the time it's just a meaningless marketing buzzword.

Re: My Home Fibre Network Disintegrated

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Post by brianwawok »

jaeckel wrote: post #137
adinisom wrote: post #103

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If you want to pull another cable: - secure a string to the old cable - pull the cable out the other end, pulling the string through - secure the string to the new cable - pull the string out the other end, pulling the new cable into position

> [...] a string [...] Does someone have a recommendation for a specific material the string should be made of?

The sell pulling string in the electrical section of the hardware store.

Re: My Home Fibre Network Disintegrated

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Post by [deleted] »

DannyBee wrote: post #155

I have fs.com armored cable installed for 10 years now. Different times and spools. It is all in perfect shape. They test all their cable. Something is almost certainly disintegrating your cable. If you have any spare old pvc pipe or something in the basement, hit it with a hammer and see if it is brittle (the hammer should bounce). If it is brittle, I would not hang out in the basement until you figure out what is g…

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Re: My Home Fibre Network Disintegrated

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Post by deadbabe »

hsbauauvhabzb wrote: post #110
culi wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is no legal requirement for it to refer to MIL-SPEC. More often than not it is just pure marketing without any actual spec tied to it

Military grade afaict just implies the military ‘could’ use it, by that definition almost any company sells military grade products or services, except companies who explicitly would not sell to the military.

Original Gameboys are military grade, and even in the gulf war when they were used, there was one that survived being melted.

Re: My Home Fibre Network Disintegrated

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Post by iso1631 »

russdill wrote: post #4

If you buy a consumer product labeled "military grade" you are buying snake oil. And not just snake oil, incredibly over priced snake oil.

> incredibly over priced snake oil.

Military grade snake oil?

When I see "military grade" I assume overpriced $30,000 hammer

Re: My Home Fibre Network Disintegrated

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Post by iso1631 »

chneu wrote: post #56
russdill wrote: post #4

If you buy a consumer product labeled "military grade" you are buying snake oil. And not just snake oil, incredibly over priced snake oil.

Basically same with any company with "Patriot" or "Veteran" in the name. It's just a weak pander to people's weak egos. Freedumb, if you will.

America is a country which thinks buying cheap tat from China with American Flags on is patriotic

Re: My Home Fibre Network Disintegrated

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Post by CamperBob2 »

VanTheBrand wrote: post #92
CamperBob2 wrote: post #68

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Radon is a noble gas. It's not going to affect fiber or wiring... but yes, if you're going to spend much time down there, definitely a good idea to check for it.

Radon is radioactive. The alpha particles it emits can break down polymers and degrade plastics.

If it were radioactive enough to do that, you'd have a much bigger problem than some networking flakiness.

Re: My Home Fibre Network Disintegrated

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Post by colechristensen »

hsbauauvhabzb wrote: post #153
bluGill wrote: post #135

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the military often writes a spec and then refuses to buy anything that doesn't meet it. Most soldiers are not going to walmart to get supplies - even f walmart sells that type of thing.

I’m not talking about what the military could or would use, I’m talking about what it takes for something to be called military grade.

"military grade" isn't a protected phrase. As a consumer you might be able to sue them if the thing breaks and they can't prove that phrase meant anything? But doubtful.

Claiming to conform to a more specific product or process standard would be more specific fraud.

But in general though "military grade" is a red flag for shitty marketing.

Example: pop tarts are military grade! [1]

Though their commercial packaging is likely not.

https://www.dla.mil/Portals/104/Documents/TroopSupport/Subsi...

Re: My Home Fibre Network Disintegrated

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Post by ChrisMarshallNY »

throw0101c wrote: post #154
OneDeuxTriSeiGo wrote: post #130

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Yeah if you see something labelling itself "MIL-SPEC", that's grade A snake oil bullshit. That said military spec stuff is actually generally a good sign that something is of higher quality than random off the shelf garbage but only if you know there's a specific spec you want it to work with. And most of the time you aren't even necessarily looking for a MIL-STD (standard) but rather a MIL-PRF (performance rating/sp…

TIL: * https://www.navsea.navy.mil/Home/Warfare-Centers/NSWC-Dahlgr... * https://landandmaritimeapps.dla.mil/programs/MilSpec/ListDoc...

Anything with “Marine” in its title, is usually 5X more expensive, but worth it.

Nothing sucks more than having the engine crap out, 150Km offshore, because your fuel injection system got corroded.

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