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Microsoft May Have Created the Slowest Windows in 25 Years with Windows 11

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Re: Microsoft May Have Created the Slowest Windows in 25 Years with Windows 11

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Post by CTOSian »

ncpa-cpl wrote: post #124
greenavocado wrote: post #50

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- TPM 2.0 requirement - Secure Boot enforcement - Microsoft account requirement - BitLocker device encryption tied to MS account - Hardware attestation - Telemetry/Data Collection - Extensive diagnostic data collection - Advertising ID tracking - Activity history syncing - Bing integration everywhere - Edge as persistent default (difficult to change) - OneDrive integration/nagging - Microsoft 365 upselling - Copilot…

Forcing OneDrive :/

you guys def have no idea about LTSC...

Re: Microsoft May Have Created the Slowest Windows in 25 Years with Windows 11

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Post by jl6 »

Ah, an opportunity to call upon Hacker News, tech support of last resort…

Someone please tell me if there’s a trick to making the Windows snipping tool faster. I press Win+Shift+S to activate the tool for capturing a region. It takes about 2 seconds to load. I draw the rectangle. Then it takes about 2 seconds to finish capturing.

That is 4 infuriating seconds for something that should be (and I’m sure used to be!) virtually instant.

Now that text is easily recognized in images, screenshots are an important interoperability tool for garbage apps like Teams.

Re: Microsoft May Have Created the Slowest Windows in 25 Years with Windows 11

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Post by hshdhdhj4444 »

epolanski wrote: post #29

I liked the path windows was going in late 2010s. WSL, power toys, many great utils, great performance. But it has since then stalled and got increasingly worse. Especially with this AI shoving everywhere, not even mentioning getting ads at some point in notifications and start menu. I'm not particularly in love with MacOS either (but have no realistic alternative on my MacBooks). I'm more and more inclined of switch…

If you want an OS to simply do stuff Linux is now clearly superior.

However, I found Omarchy to be whatever the opposite of a sweet spot is. It brings all the complications of a tiling WM, so you still have to learn a complicated new way of using your system, but at the same time it is extremely opinionated so instead of ending with a tailored custom tiling WM that suits your needs at the end of the learning curve, you end up with a tiling WM that is suited for someone else’s needs.

On the flip side, the simplifications it does add, such as a supposedly easier way to add packages, does no such thing. It doesn’t simplify the process at all and in fact makes it harder to understand how to actually remove stuff.

Re: Microsoft May Have Created the Slowest Windows in 25 Years with Windows 11

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Post by HPsquared »

ada0000 wrote: post #110
api wrote: post #99

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That means you have to work on the original code, and modern entry-mid level devs can't do that. It's probably in C++. Your expensive senior and staff level devs are on more important projects. Make it a web app and your cheap entry level grads can do it.

Microsoft has the resources to train people.

But does any junior want to learn C++ Win32? You want to learn something that leads to a long-term career development path, not a sunsetting technology.

Re: Microsoft May Have Created the Slowest Windows in 25 Years with Windows 11

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Post by hshdhdhj4444 »

pico303 wrote: post #69
spikej wrote: post #36

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Even without the AI, it's replacing native apps with web based ones. Case in point: Notepad. It's slower than WordPad on Win 10... and crashes!

I remember reading that even the Start menu is now a React app.

Apparently this is not entirely true. It’s just a section of the start menu that’s based on React/React Native.

Re: Microsoft May Have Created the Slowest Windows in 25 Years with Windows 11

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Post by m_fayer »

badc0ffee wrote: post #33
richard_chase wrote: post #14

I switched to Linux after Windows started showing me propaganda on the screen where you enter your password. To me, that's diabolical and forced me to make the switch. Sorry, I don't wish to "Learn more about Black-Owned Businesses" just to access my computer.

We updated my MIL's computer to Windows 11 and now it's giving her ads about Xbox something or other on the login screen. She is in her 80s and has no idea what an Xbox even is.

This is awful in many ways. Among other things what really gets my goat is that Xbox something or other ads can have cartoony sexuality, violence, and so on. Those things don’t bother me, but there are plenty of elderly, conservative, religious, etc. people who would be taken aback by it.

There’s plenty of that content in our media, but those people don’t consume that media. A computer is a critical general purpose tool. Everyone needs it. This is like putting scantily clad elves on every refrigerator.

Re: Microsoft May Have Created the Slowest Windows in 25 Years with Windows 11

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Post by lysace »

3eb7988a1663 wrote: post #165
lysace wrote: post #113

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Feb 2014: Satya Nadella becomes CEO. July 2014: Microsoft lays off 14k people, a large portion of which are SDET (Software Development Engineer in Test)/QA/test people. The idea was that regular developers themselves would be writing and owning tests rather than relying on separate testers. I'm sure there were multiple instances of insane empire building and lots of unproductivity, but it's also hard to not think thi…

Ultimately it still comes down to someone in the chain giving a damn. There are obvious, surface level bugs across most technologies. Yet, developers, PMs, VPs all sign off and say, "Close enough".

And that's also on the CEO, especially after this much time.

He has failed to correctly incentivize/hire/motivate/plan/structure/etc.

Re: Microsoft May Have Created the Slowest Windows in 25 Years with Windows 11

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Post by avidphantasm »

PlanksVariable wrote: post #146
api wrote: post #83

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The reason for this is that it's hard to hire native UI developers, but easy to hire web devs. Something like 90% of all new devs today learn only cloud-native backend dev or web frontend dev. The only exceptions tends to be mobile and game developers. Collectively cloud+web, mobile, and games account for like 98% of all new devs it seems. Nobody learns anything else. The web is going to become the desktop UI in the…

Why can’t Microsoft employees learn on the job? When I joined a (non-Microsoft) BigTech company, I was expected to learn C++ and internal libraries and tools within a couple months while working on newbie projects. The company recouped that investment many times over.

There is a lot of idiocy/stubbornness among middle managers. I worked for a large consulting firm for a few years and would see hiring managers pass by candidates with good aptitude whom they could’ve trained in 4-6 weeks. Instead, they had the position open for several months waiting for someone who knew the exact technologies they were using and still didn’t find anyone in some cases. Seemed to me that the middle managers need more tolerance for non-billable time. But when everyone is incentivized to meet quarterly goals, this is what you get.

Re: Microsoft May Have Created the Slowest Windows in 25 Years with Windows 11

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Post by j1elo »

api wrote: post #99
secondcoming wrote: post #97

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That makes little sense, notepad.exe already exists. The only development required on it would be to add AI shit to it. They could just leave it alone.

That means you have to work on the original code, and modern entry-mid level devs can't do that. It's probably in C++. Your expensive senior and staff level devs are on more important projects. Make it a web app and your cheap entry level grads can do it.

My first entry-level job just freshly coming out of the University was writing C++ with Qt for a computer vision app. And that was my actual first contact with C++ (had seen C and Java in Uni).

It was no biggie, just joining the low level of C with the class notions from Java. Pair that with the C++FAQ website, and it was easy.

Are entry-level devs generally not able to do that nowadays? I do not believe people are generally more stupid or less capable, so, is education so much worse or what's going on?

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