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Post by macleginn »

cimi_ wrote: post #17

Not specific to this IPv6 event, but I was wondering what happens to public services during these Internet shutdowns? Does everything stop or it's mostly business as usual minus some things? I would imagine hospitals, tax offices etc need the internet to work?

Russia has been systematically shutting down the Internet for a long time now, to disrupt Ukrainian drones. The effects were very painful intially, especially re payment systems; people were encouraged to withdraw and carry cash. Now they are shifting more and more towards a "whitelisting" approach where a handful of services continue to function while everything else is turned off. As usual in Russia, people complain but adapt.

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Post by zamadatix »

breppp wrote: post #50
thesdev wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yep, everything connecting to the Internet goes through the TIC. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telecommunication_Infrastructu...

Ministry of Information is a name with a certain feel

I probably spent far too much time looking into why they'd set themselves up with that kind of name... but it just nerd sniped me too hard to pass up.

Translation tools claim (I don't know enough to verify) a literal translation is "Ministry of Communications and Information Technology". I.e. they handle telecoms & IT, or "communications technology and information technology" if fully expanded.

But why bother switching it around to "Ministry of Information and Communications Technology" then? Apparently because that's what the order we call it in English https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Information_and_communications... which surprised me because I didn't even know that was a term and I've only ever worked in the IT and telecoms jobs - WHTMA (We Have Too Many Acronyms).

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Post by itintheory »

anakaine wrote: post #113
throwaway894345 wrote: post #66

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I'm also curious about LoRA / sneakernet applications. Have those been widely used in cases of censorship?

Lora is fine if you want to send a very short message. Its not useful for much else. Its also not a prevalent technology compared to general.internet/mobile phone. Organising resistance with it is the pipe dream of those who play with chips and antennas, but its not something thats going to happen when crowds and mobs form up in a situation like this. Not least because the hardware is not accessible to your average c…

There are real-world examples of non-internet networks being created in authoritarian regimes. One example I've read about is in Cuba [1] but I presume there are others.

[1] https://restofworld.org/2020/the-life-and-death-of-snet-hava...

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Post by Aloisius »

logicchains wrote: post #132
ithkuil wrote: post #100

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Apparently a lot of people in the west too are assuming that these protests are fueled by the west. At least that's the most likely explanation for why so many left leaning youth are not supporting Iranians while supporting Palestine. Apparently the fight is not about freedom but about (perceived) whiteness vs non-whiteness

>Apparently the fight is not about freedom but about (perceived) whiteness vs non-whiteness But the Iranians are white. The name Iran is literally derived from "Aryan".

I believe that was the point they were making.

While I don't think they're right that Iran is ignored because Iranian protesters and the Iranian government are both perceived as white by Americans (or both non-white, depending on the person), it's undeniable that they use the perceived non-whiteness of Palestinians and perceived whiteness of Israelis as rhetorical ammunition.

This rhetorical device is a rather effective as Americans have a tendency to view everything through their own lens of "race"/color so casting the conflict as white people oppressing non-white people because they are non-white is a powerful argument that is easily understood by Americans.

That said, personally, I think Iran is ignored more because Palestine is sucking all the air out of the room than anything else, especially with all the graphic videos/photos. Sudan on the other hand... there's really no excuse for ignoring that.

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Post by cramsession »

reissbaker wrote: post #160
cramsession wrote: post #129

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Wow, that's a lot of Israeli operatives. Sounds like there are more Mossad agents living in Iran than there are Israelis living in Israel!

I mean, it’s not a lot. That’s the whole point. There’s not “massive protests”. Pure fiction.

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Post by cramsession »

xenospn wrote: post #170
cramsession wrote: post #149

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So you think all Iranians are just very stupid simpletons who can be convinced to go risk their lives protesting the government that easily? All because some Israelis told them to?

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Post by Nicook »

dgrin91 wrote: post #2

Seems like v4s zeroed out for a tiny bit too, but even now they are substantially lower than normal. Odd behavior, I don't know if its a precursor to an attack or some infra issue

Yeah I am suprised everyone thinks this is necessarily internal. Could equally be related to IL/USA incoming aggression.

I'd at least keep an open mind for a while.

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Post by cosmicgadget »

jrochkind1 wrote: post #126

I remember reading about how Venezuela had an internet blackout preceding US attack, presumably the blackout was an attack by US "cyber". Ah, here we are. https://securitybrief.co.uk/story/us-cyber-attack-on-venezue... The discussion here assumes that the Iranian government is responsible for this blackout. I actually don't understand enough about network routing to undestand the OP dashboard linked to or be able to…

Seems more likely that an authoritarian regime is suppressing protests. Unless there has been a troop buildup of which I am unaware, there's no imminent invasion.

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Post by cramsession »

KaiserPro wrote: post #162
cramsession wrote: post #120

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Thats such bollocks. you can't just order up a whole country protest, prolonged protest when you want. The average person in the street isn't going to protest, risk death and torture because some bloke with a dodgy accent tells them to

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