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Re: Eat Real Food

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Post by tracker1 »

PaulDavisThe1st wrote: post #160
tracker1 wrote: post #104

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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What corporate interests are pushing against a meat centric diet that have any actual traction or power in the USA?

If you look at the actions of most of the heavily processed food product companies, they treat it as a zero sum game and are finding profits in working against meat.

Kellogs was founded by a Seventh Day Adventists, you can also look into Adventist Agricultural Association, though they don't list associated members directly.

Almond/Oat/Soy milk costs a fraction of what whole cow milk takes to produce and charge much more... the fats and sugars in the product are emphatically worse and it's treated as a health food with higher margins, with concerted efforts to remove/restrict/eliminate animal products from availability. Similar for advocates of meat alternatives.

Re: Eat Real Food

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Post by samiv »

reissbaker wrote: post #133
nihakue wrote: post #55

How is it possible that beef, dairy, and chicken are front and center while Lentils, Tofu (or even just soy), Chickpeas, Nutritional Yeast, Broccoli, etc are all left off? Why do they arbitrarily split "protein" and "fruit/veg" given that most/all of the most protein dense foods are vegetables/legumes? Steak is a terrible source of protein (in terms of nutrient density). Immediately pretty suspicious.

Beef has ~3x more protein per gram than legumes. It is much more protein-dense than vegetables or legumes. Similarly, it's a "complete" protein, whereas most vegetables and legumes are missing necessary amino acids. The downside of beef isn't the "density" of nutrients: the downside is high saturated fat. Chicken breast, though, is similarly high in protein without the saturated fat downside.

The fat is an excellent source of energy though and it's very hard to get fat by eating fat because it's essentially hormonally inert. I.e. eating fat doesn't precipitate insulin which is the hormone that enables body fat accumulation.

So the problem with steak isn't the steak itself it's the "steak dinner" where the meat comes with sides such as french fries and drinks such as beer.

Re: Eat Real Food

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Post by UncleMeat »

tracker1 wrote: post #61
FumblingBear wrote: post #42

Moderately amused at the quote "We are ending the war on protein." In my experience, every single brand in recent years has been coalescing around the idea of making protein bars, drinks, prominently labeling the amount of grams of protein are in items, etc. I'm not opposed, as protein seems to be a good target to prioritize, but claiming there's a war on protein just seems so out of touch to the point of absurdity.…

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Americans eat more meat and especially more red meat than most other people on the planet. Why aren't we killing it on hormone balance, mental health, and fertility?

Re: Eat Real Food

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Post by caycep »

schmuckonwheels wrote: post #30

Speaking from personal experience, this is consistent with multiple doctors over the years recommending high-protein, low carb diets. (Clarification: low does not mean no carb.) I don't understand people freaking out over this - outside of a purely political reflex - hell hath no fury like taking away nerds' Mountain Dew and Flamin' Hot Cheetos. Nor do I understand the negative reactions to new restrictions on SNAP -…

mostly because of the destruction of American science, public health and public safety the admin pushed through in order to publish this set of guidelines, instead of just hiring a professionally trained RD to write it up.

Re: Eat Real Food

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Post by mikeyouse »

api wrote: post #40
schmuckonwheels wrote: post #30

Speaking from personal experience, this is consistent with multiple doctors over the years recommending high-protein, low carb diets. (Clarification: low does not mean no carb.) I don't understand people freaking out over this - outside of a purely political reflex - hell hath no fury like taking away nerds' Mountain Dew and Flamin' Hot Cheetos. Nor do I understand the negative reactions to new restrictions on SNAP -…

I think this is at least better than the old food pyramid, though not perfect. It's a step in the right direction. What I hate, and react against, is the package deal. We get a better food pyramid, but we also get antivax imbeciles and a resurgence in easily preventable diseases. We get an official nod of approval given to idiots who think you can treat cancer with "alternative" treatments. We get blaming autism on T…

Just for anyone reading - the food pyramid was canned over 15 years ago. MAHA promotes it as absurd in order to criticize it even though food guidelines have been evidence-based and extremely reasonable since the early Obama years. Their entire grift is built on deceit.

Re: Eat Real Food

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Post by russdill »

CGMthrowaway wrote: post #82
jjkaczor wrote: post #5

Great! How will the reductions in consumer protection, health, FDA, etc. - by this current administration impact that? https://www.food-safety.com/articles/11004-a-2025-timeline-o...

I see how the article is framed, but I see a lot of good things in that timeline: MAHA Commission assessing health risks from food ingredients and chemicals and developing a strategy to combat childhood chronic disease Closing the GRAS loophole Phasing out synthetic food dyes $235 million specifically aimed at improving nutrition, controlling food additives and addressing food safety $15 million specifically for mode…

Anything with money amounts, my next question is how much money were we previously spending on that thing.

Re: Eat Real Food

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Post by GaryBluto »

What was that animation? It looked like 3 stock images coming together briefly, then flying off again, then the page scrolling.

Regardless, there's nothing here (aside from the odd scrolling layout of the page itself) I can disagree with. I'm already following this "diet" in the most part anyway, and that's without consciously thinking that much about it.

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